Road Cycling

Never trust any elevation estimate. They are wildly off. Easily by 50%+ at times.

Yeah. Nothing worse than the Garmin climb pro telling you you've only got 5m climbing to go when you can see the top and know there's a lot more to go!
 
I always find it funny to see the number of people who are out dressed for a Siberian winter when its like 5-10 degrees. Especially at the tail end of the Autumn.

Cycling around here and seeing the locals you'd think it was -20C somedays!
 
Yeah. Nothing worse than the Garmin climb pro telling you you've only got 5m climbing to go when you can see the top and know there's a lot more to go!

Funnily enough I never really have issue with climb pro. Its just the overall elevation that is junk.

Cycling around here and seeing the locals you'd think it was -20C somedays!

Ahh, they're Spanish though, they have an excuse that they have nice weather most of the time. You never have that excuse in the UK!
 
Need to pick me up a cheap track pump from market place, i used to borrow my mates, i have a small pump which i tend to use.
Hope you're keeping up with the commuting?! If you didn't grab a track pump yet then it's worth investing in a good one. My Joe Blow (v1) is one of the best I've ever owned and is 9 year old after I'd been buying a new cheap one every 12 months before.

So something like this:

I've been running around on my cx bike with 33mm and pu tubes, and even that is pretty horrible with the stare of the current roads. I've got a 2024 tcr with the standard 25s, will need to wear them out before chucking on some 32s.
Big difference between 25mm and 28, I imagine the change to 30mm is good too... But going from 25mm to 32mm would be massive! In my opinion and depends on tyres, but too much. They'll feel too different and likely slow.

Seems expensive for what is quite an old/traditional design (limited internal routing from the downtube) with a new groupset thrown on it... But is Ti I guess so that bumps the price, so compared to other Ti builds it's actually well priced. But not convinced they're actually made in the UK!?

cue all the jokes at my expense but last night my bike wasn't shifting in from the small ring into the big ring.

And my first thought was "I wouldn't have to deal with this crap with DI2" :cry: :mad:
What makes you think you don't? Especially if building yourself. You still gotta set it up and index occasionally (although it is a far amount less)!

pretty sure pot-holes are responsible for this damage on rubino pro4 graphene ?

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With salt&mud on Cambs roads would wax help on the chain - over drylube,
Having to take the jockey wheels off to for a clean it's just as tedious to toothbrush scrub whole chain in hot degreaser, then rinse - I'm not convinced any clip on chain cleaner would be as efficient
Wax won't help much with mud/water/salt, if anything it's worse around salt than a wet lube as you'll get a rusty chain rather than a gloopy black one.

Carcass on the tyre cut away from the tread it's either bottomed out and the rim wall has done it (although strange shape & not uniform). Looks more likely hit some debris which has cut it. Doesn't look that fresh but the bulge from both there I'd say you need a new tyre. It looks deep enough it's cut through any puncture layer there is (not much there on a sidewall) so it won't take much for it to give way/puncture.

EDIT - Even better this place is Bristol based for you
Mega price - when you consider I built my 'hodge podge' of Di2's older generations together over several years and paid in total a bit less than that (£700 & £730)...

My Whoop had been slow updating and finally did so this morning. Yesterday's effort was 20.3, which is the highest in 6 months (which includes two Spain trips, taking on 2k+ ft climbs) and my recovery today is Red, which not including Covid, has only happened once in 6 months (during one of the Spain trips)
Hope you're still feeling good mate and the rest day helped - never underestimate the need for rest, especially when mixing up sports or increasing volume. Whoop recovery comes from HRV so sometimes it can be a bit misleading, but with the high day strain just shows how much you worked across everything combined. It might have been the ride a little harder than normal, or other factors too!

I spent most of sunday with a silicone sealant tube inhaling the fumes of it & white spirits. Felt pretty rough later and still a bit 'meh' from it now! Slacked on saturday as it was -4 when I woke up in the morning so skipped the club ride and did a few hours on Zwift. Rode pretty hard but did semi-plan to get out on sunday in the sunshine. Typical it didn't happen!

Great weekend! 50 miles on Saturday and 70 yesterday. My god the roads of Herefordshire are shocking. Literally craters, not just potholes! Summer is going to be fun with all the pointing!

Haha tell me about it and you didn't even ride the 'bad' ones north of the city! Which bit in particular? The road through Fownhope got resurfaced not long ago after they did all the repairs on it but don't think I've been further along the hills to Old Gore recently.

This is what would worry me about group rides. I wouldn't feel remotely confident taking one hand off the bars to give hand signals in some places because the general quality of the roads is shocking, let alone when you are trying to avoid potholes.
Oh it's all habit and practice, but you generally signal before a hole/rough part, not when you're on it... Although depends on your ability and confidence too. If I know the road/hole or on front I'll ride a gap so I can skip to the side, or ride through a rough bit knowing I'm Tubeless while signalling. But I do tend to ride wider tyres and lower pressures that most with much lower risk of a pinch causing any issue. If the group is tight I'll happy 'take one for the team' being Tubeless... As many I ride with are on tubes and riding older setups.
 
Seems expensive for what is quite an old/traditional design (limited internal routing from the downtube) with a new groupset thrown on it... But is Ti I guess so that bumps the price, so compared to other Ti builds it's actually well priced. But not convinced they're actually made in the UK!?
yeah, the bikes are assembled in uk but frame is welded/put together in a china which is somewhat annoying even tho I have nothing against quality stuff from china, I'd still like to buy a "dream" bike that I can upgrade in the future..

I keep coming back to https://www.specializedconceptstore.co.uk/shop/bikes/road/2024-roubaix-sl8-comp-392325/option/

but I really want titanium.

ribble titanium seems mixed bag reviews wise / quality
dolan is good but some framesets have limited tire clearance
gloria seems decent but quite expensive compared
triban/decathlon have this https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-gravel-bike-with-titanium-frame-grvl-900/_/R-p-325632 which is interesting.

if we look into enigma, reilley etc we're talking 4500-5000 for a 105 spec bike which seems very steep. I know most money is in frame but..
 
Hope you're keeping up with the commuting?! If you didn't grab a track pump yet then it's worth investing in a good one. My Joe Blow (v1) is one of the best I've ever owned and is 9 year old after I'd been buying a new cheap one every 12 months before.

So something like this:


Big difference between 25mm and 28, I imagine the change to 30mm is good too... But going from 25mm to 32mm would be massive! In my opinion and depends on tyres, but too much. They'll feel too different and likely slow.



Yep i had a ride in this morning, planning on maybe doing tomorrow also, or tomorrow and wednesday

I purchased a £10 track pump from amazon

Vandorm Super Lite Alloy Bicycle Lightweight Presta Schrader Universal Bike Pump & FREE Tool Pod Airbed Football Adaptor Inner Tube Track​


Seems to do the job well,

didnt want to spend £20-30 on a pump to be honest and this works well, gauge works and has good air capacity per iteration. Pumps to 60psi which is what i usually stick in the tubes/tyres in no time and much better than the small mini pump i had. How long it will last is another question, but seems alright.
 
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Ah fair enough, especially at that price! I just recall spending £18-25 on cheap pumps and they never lasted... Then snagged the Topeak on a deal for only a few quid more and the quality/build was worlds apart. Especially now it's 9 years old! :D


The Roubaix is a great bike. It's basically what I'm riding - my early Diverge being a road setup. But I can never get away from the 'block' look at the rear of the seattube above the seatstays. That annoys me and don't know why it's there (there's no insert or 'futureshock' in the seattube)! The way Cannondale have done the one on the Supersix - where it drops down lower below the seatstay join looks so much better!

that Triban is nice, more modern design. Lots of talk about Van Rysel at the moment, would keep an eye out for them doing a more racey endurance version?!

Guy in my club is selling a 'Mark Reilly gravel ti frame'. I'm trying to get some info which it is as quite tempted myself...

Long fingered gloves. Talk to me!

I'm well set for winter and cooler weather - Gripgrab, 2x Sportful windproof & the Spatz Thermoz (definately not a midwinter glove).

So really something like a mit, but with long fingers. I've got a pair of old Giant ones but they're the wrong colour (wear them commuting) amazing glove considering the age when I bought some newer ones they didn't last half the time. The Endura Humvee ones I got where ok (got the mit version too - velcro peeled off those) but they're both very well worn after only a couple of seasons. Would buy more again if they where cheaper, they're not worth the price tags.

Might take a punt on these Castelli Arenberg as seems a good price for Castelli
 
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Whoop recovery comes from HRV so sometimes it can be a bit misleading
Tbf, there are a few metrics it uses. HRV, RHR, Skin Temp, Respiratory Rate and Blood Oxygen. Four of those are still the wrong side of things at the moment, although right now it seems to be my stomach that's a concern to me...
 
I really need to start doing more elevation in my rides! I did a flat 47km (~170m of elevation) on Sunday. Was quite funny as I left at about 8am when it was nice but still cold. By the time i was getting home you could tell it had warmed up as more people were heading out in just shorts and short sleeve jerseys/gilets!
I managed 1400m in 80km yesterday. I need to up it. I have the marmotte in June :(
 
co2, where do people get theirs from? Realised I'm down to a single and off to Majorca on Saturday, so need some sharpish.
 
I managed 1400m in 80km yesterday. I need to up it. I have the marmotte in June :(

For me I feel like I have to cycle to Bath before any good hills begin (Bannerdown being my favourite but Midford hill is quite fun too) we have a few hills that are a bit closer like Dundry but it means riding though the arse end of town which isn't pleasant.

Really it's Zwift I get to use for elevation.

I got my baby-sportive in 2 weeks. Once that's done I'm going to finally give Cheddar Gorge a try
 
Ah fair enough, especially at that price! I just recall spending £18-25 on cheap pumps and they never lasted... Then snagged the Topeak on a deal for only a few quid more and the quality/build was worlds apart. Especially now it's 9 years old! :D



The Roubaix is a great bike. It's basically what I'm riding - my early Diverge being a road setup. But I can never get away from the 'block' look at the rear of the seattube above the seatstays. That annoys me and don't know why it's there (there's no insert or 'futureshock' in the seattube)! The way Cannondale have done the one on the Supersix - where it drops down lower below the seatstay join looks so much better!

that Triban is nice, more modern design. Lots of talk about Van Rysel at the moment, would keep an eye out for them doing a more racey endurance version?!

Guy in my club is selling a 'Mark Reilly gravel ti frame'. I'm trying to get some info which it is as quite tempted myself...

that design is a bit odd isn't it and the more you look at it the worse it gets. Giant defy is another but the wheels it comes with are rubbish.

honestly, finding an all-road/endurance spec bike with chunky tire clearance seems to be a mission ha.
 
For me I feel like I have to cycle to Bath before any good hills begin (Bannerdown being my favourite but Midford hill is quite fun too) we have a few hills that are a bit closer like Dundry but it means riding though the arse end of town which isn't pleasant.

Really it's Zwift I get to use for elevation.

I got my baby-sportive in 2 weeks. Once that's done I'm going to finally give Cheddar Gorge a try
I'd recommend a loop when visiting the Mendips something like...
Up Burrington Coombe
Down Draycott's New Rd (make sure your brakes work first, hits ~20% for ~0.5 miles!)
Up Cheddar

Roughly, you'd be looking at ~50 miles with ~3200 feet climbing from near Bristol Temple Meads station.
 
I'd recommend a loop when visiting the Mendips something like...
Up Burrington Coombe
Down Draycott's New Rd (make sure your brakes work first, hits ~20% for ~0.5 miles!)
Up Cheddar

Roughly, you'd be looking at ~50 miles with ~3200 feet climbing from near Bristol Temple Meads station.

Yeah if you go past BTS and up Wells road you get to go up Dundry which feels like a wall at the start! But you get to go around a nice big reservoir before heading off to Cheddar.

I've got a couple of routes I've stole from a local cycling club. Both are about 100km that go to Wookey Hole and the other Cheddar. Just need to man up and do them solo.

I think a lot of my issue is the longer, further from home rides, i enjoy doing with a friend for the social side but then when I get let down I don't have the cajones to go solo
 
Tbf, there are a few metrics it uses. HRV, RHR, Skin Temp, Respiratory Rate and Blood Oxygen. Four of those are still the wrong side of things at the moment, although right now it seems to be my stomach that's a concern to me...
Ooooh didn't know it used all of them, have to admit the only one of those I occasionally see a message about is skin temp being outside of norm. So don't really take much notice - the 'AI' thing always warns me about HRV being low for any low Recovery - don't think it mentions the others!? Or is that it - if they where the cause it would...

Hope you're feeling better anyway. I'm still hovering around 74/75kg rather than my usual 75-77kg after the <8h sickness thing I had. Not that I'm complaining! :cry:

I managed 1400m in 80km yesterday. I need to up it. I have the marmotte in June :(
Still a good amount! Got some Zwift club friends off to Amstel and one of them buried himself 2 weekends ago and is now stressing he had to take a week 'easy' (still 200 km of Zwifting) to recover, but see he did 137km this weekend including the Muur, Berendries and Bosberg! Very jealous about where he lives and have an open invite... Even quite tempted to go ride Amstel as a 'pirate' with them (it's open roads)! :cry:

co2, where do people get theirs from? Realised I'm down to a single and off to Majorca on Saturday, so need some sharpish.
Last ones I got from PX as cheapest but that was a long time ago as don't bother with it now. I mostly used it for seating tricky tubeless tyres...
 
Yeah if you go past BTS and up Wells road you get to go up Dundry which feels like a wall at the start! But you get to go around a nice big reservoir before heading off to Cheddar.

I've got a couple of routes I've stole from a local cycling club. Both are about 100km that go to Wookey Hole and the other Cheddar. Just need to man up and do them solo.

I think a lot of my issue is the longer, further from home rides, i enjoy doing with a friend for the social side but then when I get let down I don't have the cajones to go solo
Wookey Hole seemed a glorious place to ride when we visited there last summer. Considering the weather and where it is, the roads seemed quiet & fantastically rolling!

Would say I'd head down but getting the other side of Gloucs & Bristol to the Mendip is an arse for me. Can only really do it in the car (and takes 2+ hours), have looked at doing Cheddar before. Got a guy I semi came across early cycling days who runs the Chew Valley Cycling Club.

But with so much similar/better riding around me without needing the car just seems silly to do it solo/for the sake of it! :cry:
 
funny thing, I got a route from komoot that I did on saturday - 50k only.

komoot said 320m climbing
garmin said 290m climbing

real? 470m. I have trust issues now. I hate climbing too.
You know you can get strava to auto adjust it?
 
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