Road Cycling

so my brother is fully on with brixton cycles club.. he's been with their slow group for a while and went with the fast yesterday.

He is very much like me in a sense that he rides in shorts/t-shirt/long sleeve baselayer all year long.. yesterdays morning ride he got a lot of comments for being in tshirt and shorts :D kudos to him! even I stick to long sleeve baselayer.
 
Presume the sore neck thing is at me. I'm still undecided how I'm going to set it up either spin it out 45degree and the bike the same or just 90 degree each time for the bike. Need to set up fan and laptop too, thinking about hanging the fan upside down off the ceiling.
Floor based fans work well, providing they're angled up enough that you get 'splash' air from your torso over your face, otherwise it's just cold feet! I've got 2 setup, one especially for my face lol :rolleyes:

Wouldn't a wall mount with an arm for the TV work? Or is to too wide/heavy for that kinda setup?
Lol. Not sure Hereford really counts as 'The North' :p
Haha I know, certainly West though! Where we are we tend to catch the edge of the weather from Wales combined with the winds blowing in from Bristol. I was mainly aiming at the Londoners where it's always around 5 degrees warmer than here :rolleyes::p

Saw you'd had a soaking, what fleece jersey? I tend to carry windproof gilets with my winter thermal jerseys if there's a chance of rain. Will wear my thin jacket over them in snow, or a packable over thinner jerseys.
5 degrees C this morning.<snip>
Tomorrow looks like it could be sub zero, so if there's ice on the ground I'll be on the bus.
2 degrees with -1 windchill here this morning. Less wind tomorrow but -3 with an ice warning. My first test of the cycle path I now use with ice to figure out if it's passable... Crazy thing is, we've not really had any heavy rain since I moved house in September so not even sure of the areas which get wet (to use as a guide where it may be slippy)! :eek:
And I am a pansy. So what does that say about you tropical lot?
You're a wildling from North of The Wall. :p
he got a lot of comments for being in tshirt and shorts
Fixie riders :rolleyes: ;)
 
Saw you'd had a soaking, what fleece jersey? I tend to carry windproof gilets with my winter thermal jerseys if there's a chance of rain. Will wear my thin jacket over them in snow, or a packable over thinner jerseys.

It was this jersey: http://www.wiggle.com/dhb-classic-roubaix-long-sleeve-jersey/

Not the biggest fan of it really as generally when it's cold enough to wear it I'd like the arms to be warm too but arms are flimsy non-fleece lined material so I feel the need to have arm warmers underneath.

I have this jersey sitting brand new still.. it'll probably get some use soon! http://www.wiggle.com/sportful-gruppetto-partial-windstopper-jacket/

2.7C avg on the ride yesterday with a low of 1.1C. I would usually take a gilet too but for some reason I thought it was going to be dry despite forgetting to check the forecast!
 
I only ever use bib/leg warmers now, never any issues, top half however is a completely different kettle of fish. I lobster and linered this morning and hands stayed relatively pain free.

I got a really good Sportful winter jacket thing last year and I was out in that with a Castelli base layer only for most part of the winter. And as previously discussed I am a wimp with cold, I really feel it! So I think if you find the right items it really becomes something you don't really worry about.

Gloves are the difficult one for me as well as feet. I was OK everywhere else last winter regards legs/top but 2 pairs of socks and winter overshoes left my toes freezing and a decent pair of Sportful windstopper winter gloves just didn't cut it under 5 degree's. Raynauds though as we discussed, it might be that it's impossible to stop it just like it is impossible to cure that stupid syndrome.
 
I'm wearing this jersey (either with a base layer or no base layer but under a jacket) atm:

https://www.merlincycles.com/moozes-fire-fly-long-sleeve-cycling-jersey-84598.html

Seems ok actually, got the windproofing panels etc. The cut is freaking me right out though because it's cut for your riding position not for your standing upright off the bike position, so when you do get off the bike it's all skew-iff. Weird, but I see the idea behind it because you can't feel it's there when you're on the bike. Seems well put together for the money, the RRP is pure fiction though - that RRP is fooling no-one. Why do retailers feel the need to do this stupid inflated RRP then 50% off business?
 
So, ordered some winter bib tights,:

Once these and my winter socks turn up I think I'm ready for whatever winter has in store.

Rode this weekend, 5 degree average, in regular bib shorts with knee warmers, thermal socks, overshoes, windproof gloves and a long sleeve Pro Team Jersey with a Squadra rain cape to keep the wind off.

Was quite comfortable though need some liners for the gloves and did feel the chill around the hips and groin. Not wanting to cook alive in deep winter thermal bibs I went for the Alé PRR Nominal Roubaix Bib Shorts Black/Fluo Orange for £84, the PRR Ponente review well so hopefully these will be the same. I like having the option to take knee/leg warmers off or use screens on windy days.


FTP is just a willy waving exercise and unless you're doing 20/60 minute exact seassions like a 10 or 25 mile TT then it's not worth a whole jot, but is what the majority of training programmes use, whereas if you do don't do these then actually you may be wanting to build your 2 minute power etc and the usual base points don't really apply to those sorts of targets.

I've found 6-8 minute power to be more useful for the majority of terrain near me. For Majorca I did some much longer 30,40,60,70 minute uninterrupted intervals.

A sustained build program is probably best suited to most and will cover the majority of length intervals likely to be encountered whilst providing some consistent increase across the board. Equally it gives enough variety not to be boring or monotonous. :)
 
Floor based fans work well, providing they're angled up enough that you get 'splash' air from your torso over your face, otherwise it's just cold feet! I've got 2 setup, one especially for my face lol :rolleyes:

Wouldn't a wall mount with an arm for the TV work? Or is to too wide/heavy for that kinda setup?

It's on a wall mount, but doesn't spin to 90degress unfortunately due to the size of the TV.

I got a really good Sportful winter jacket thing last year and I was out in that with a Castelli base layer only for most part of the winter. And as previously discussed I am a wimp with cold, I really feel it! So I think if you find the right items it really becomes something you don't really worry about.

Gloves are the difficult one for me as well as feet. I was OK everywhere else last winter regards legs/top but 2 pairs of socks and winter overshoes left my toes freezing and a decent pair of Sportful windstopper winter gloves just didn't cut it under 5 degree's. Raynauds though as we discussed, it might be that it's impossible to stop it just like it is impossible to cure that stupid syndrome.

Think I picked up the same norain Fiandre one. I wore yesterday with a base layer but wasn't warm enough, especially on the hands. Wear my DHB hardshell to/from work which really works with just a single base layer.

I've found 6-8 minute power to be more useful for the majority of terrain near me. For Majorca I did some much longer 30,40,60,70 minute uninterrupted intervals.

A sustained build program is probably best suited to most and will cover the majority of length intervals likely to be encountered whilst providing some consistent increase across the board. Equally it gives enough variety not to be boring or monotonous. :)

Love the Puig as a training segment. Full Gas all the way up for 45 minutes. Good when you're racing a mate up too.
 
It was this jersey: http://www.wiggle.com/dhb-classic-roubaix-long-sleeve-jersey/

Not the biggest fan of it really as generally when it's cold enough to wear it I'd like the arms to be warm too but arms are flimsy non-fleece lined material so I feel the need to have arm warmers underneath.

I have this jersey sitting brand new still.. it'll probably get some use soon! http://www.wiggle.com/sportful-gruppetto-partial-windstopper-jacket/

2.7C avg on the ride yesterday with a low of 1.1C. I would usually take a gilet too but for some reason I thought it was going to be dry despite forgetting to check the forecast!
Wish I'd spotted the gruppetto windstoppers! Have grupetto jerseys & shorts and they're some of my best/favourite!

The Wiggle/DHB one is a tough call, I imagine it's similar to the Bloc Roubaix I have and the Momentum Roubaix I had (which got wrecked when I got knocked off). They're good winter tops but not really thick enough for rain or bitter cold wind protection, I tend to wear it more in the autumn or in the easier winter days with a windproof gilet. Like the thin Windslam jerseys they're really let down by the arms in colder/windier weather and need some protection on them.

I have a DHB Windslam Blade. It's easily one of the best garments I own. It's not that thick roubaix fleecy back stuff so you don't tend to overheat in it, yet the fabric is thick with enough windproofing for winter days. I've been looking for another second hand one on fleabay for the last year. There's a couple of smalls on there now, but never a Large! The ASV Windslam Roubaix is seen as a replacement and in my experience it's only suitable as a winter jersey when you need the wind protection. It's just too thick (without any vents) for anything else, there's just no regulating the temperature with it and it's barely breathable. Still, finding mine perfect for commuting as I wear it in place of a full jacket (which I only tend to use for heavy rain now).
you mean full carbon sram force Hydro discs etc? ;) yeah :D I made him buy a proper bike.
Good man! But still tshirts and shorts? I bet he has a beard and a topknot too...!? ;)
I got a really good Sportful winter jacket thing last year and I was out in that with a Castelli base layer only for most part of the winter. And as previously discussed I am a wimp with cold, I really feel it! So I think if you find the right items it really becomes something you don't really worry about.

Gloves are the difficult one for me as well as feet. I was OK everywhere else last winter regards legs/top but 2 pairs of socks and winter overshoes left my toes freezing and a decent pair of Sportful windstopper winter gloves just didn't cut it under 5 degree's. Raynauds though as we discussed, it might be that it's impossible to stop it just like it is impossible to cure that stupid syndrome.
Which gloves are they? I'm using these during the day but closer to zero (like this morning) I swear by my Galibier Barrier II's. Supreme gloves for the cheap price! I find them better than Castelli Neoprene for keeping my hands warm, without the bulk.

Although I have found my thumbs freeze from the wind after long rides subzero sat on the hoods, fingers tend to stay out the wind a little and keep each other warm...!
Why do retailers feel the need to do this stupid inflated RRP then 50% off business?
Because everyone loves a bargain! It's just all marketing, especially for brands which are never sold retail in shops...! :rolleyes:
 
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I agree regarding the FTP thing but I think Zwift needs a baseline figure to calibrate the workouts... if not then that's an hour of my life I'm not getting back :p

Got out for a ride as I've got the week off and tomorrow on wards may be absorbed with some house repairs. First proper length outing for the winter bike and it rode fine. I stuck to the quiet lanes so it is now filthy. Pretty windy out and the first stint was with a tailwind so PR's ahoy followed by a slow average speed :p

Wore my clearance purchase for the first time (Altura Raceline Jacket) and liked it so much I might grab another one :p

Finally a moral dilemma :p https://www.strava.com/activities/768698636/segments/18817455624 Who the hell puts a segment across a railway crossing (no signal pedestrian type gate)? I should flag it... but I've got third and with the new bike I think I could take the KOM as it is road to the crossing and then gravel from it :p

EDIT - Oh, and my Aldi "totally the same as the Moon Nebula" light packed up at some point during the ride. I normally run two lights if they are needed but as it was daylight I didn't 'need' a light so just relied on that one. I only had it on low flashing and it had plenty of charge but it seems that the cool weather sucked the life out of it. It has now been relegated to backup light and will be further relegated to the bin when I find what I want to replace it. Why won't someone make a rechargeable light with about 25 Lumens that has flash and steady, that's it? I don't want 10 levels of output, sixteen flashing modes and a super powerful retina destroying setting that kills the battery in 3 minutes. Maybe I should design my own, I'd even throw in a feature where it beeps when it goes on so you can reach around and click it on while on the move and know, even with gloves on, if you've actualy switched the thing on. Quick, to Kickstarter!
 
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Was quite comfortable though need some liners for the gloves<snip>
A sustained build program is probably best suited to most and will cover the majority of length intervals likely to be encountered whilst providing some consistent increase across the board. Equally it gives enough variety not to be boring or monotonous. :)
Size down at least 2 if looking at DHB. I went from Large->Medium->Small on last years and they're still too big for a liner.

Sustained build is what I think I'm after, too daunting to commit to a 10+ week program but very interested in shorter low volume (around 3-4 hours a week) if I can find it. Anything more and I'll have to skip commuting and be moaning in here about being ruined 24/7. :rolleyes:
Love the Puig as a training segment. Full Gas all the way up for 45 minutes. Good when you're racing a mate up too.
Or when racing for your prime position on the OcUK Leaderboard...? ;)
Exactly those! I think I even vouched for those gloves and told you to buy them at some point :D
Lol, if I remember rightly I bought them at £20 with the intentions of returning them for the red ones when they came back into stock and kept them... Ordered these at the same time, they're superb but sporting a few major scuffs and a hole after my off a month ago. So I'm wearing the plain black essentials... :rolleyes: ;)
I agree regarding the FTP thing but I think Zwift needs a baseline figure to calibrate the workouts... if not then that's an hour of my life I'm not getting back :p<snip>

Finally a moral dilemma :p https://www.strava.com/activities/768698636/segments/18817455624 Who the hell puts a segment across a railway crossing (no signal pedestrian type gate)? I should flag it... but I've got third and with the new bike I think I could take the KOM as it is road to the crossing and then gravel from it :p
Use 200 as your baseline FTP and see how the threshold intervals/sweet spot sessions feel.

Segment is named 'Rear Entry' and goes along 'Slutshole Lane'. Sure you want that in your Trophy cabinet?! ;)

As for rear, my legit Moon Nebula is going well, a £26 bargain! ;)

I've moved to Exposure TraceR now but realise they're a little expensive for some, always found Cateye good before, but they do have a ton of modes (but my 'mini RC' always remembered which mode it was turned off on, the linked one is the latest version of it).

Edit: Castelli Alpha jackets, talk to me! Might be able to grab one from a club guy for £80, worth it? :)
 
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exposure traceR lights can suck a winkie for all I care! riders who use them on the pulse mode or what ever it's called need rethink it.

anyone behind them sees a red bloob of light nothing else! if I ever get behind a cyclist with one of those I feel blinded. Horrible little things.
 
exposure traceR lights can suck a winkie for all I care! riders who use them on the pulse mode or what ever it's called need rethink it.

anyone behind them sees a red bloob of light nothing else! if I ever get behind a cyclist with one of those I feel blinded. Horrible little things.

I know you hate them, that's why I have two! ;)

It's a 'Pulse' and not a flash, I find flashes much worse! Can't tell distance to a cyclist with only a flashing rear, even worse in the rain/fog! 2 lights is best, one flash/pulse and 1 solid. :cool:
 
Nearly had an off this evening thanks to... a cyclist. I'd overtaken him but he managed to catch up to me and was fairly close behind. We came to a badly lit junction with poor visibility to the right, so I slowed to check what was going on. As I looked right I saw that he was right on my shoulder. I expressed my surprise through the medium of random vocalisation and he apologised and I made a point of going off at warp speed at the first available opportunity to put him behind me.
 
Dear ******* lord. Got the adaptor and tried to fit it but one of the bolt holes on the BBB frame is shorter than it should be so it won't work. So annoying. I had way less hassle with my "dodgy" Chinese carbon frame.

Need to find a shorter bolt.
 
Segment is named 'Rear Entry' and goes along 'Slutshole Lane'. Sure you want that in your Trophy cabinet?! ;)
Roit gud Naaarfolk street name is that boi ;)

I think I'll get another Moon, most likely the Arcturus as that ticks most of the boxes. Probably the Pro version for the extra battery life (not fussed about the extra lumens).
 
exposure traceR lights can suck a winkie for all I care! riders who use them on the pulse mode or what ever it's called need rethink it.

anyone behind them sees a red bloob of light nothing else! if I ever get behind a cyclist with one of those I feel blinded. Horrible little things.

Because the idiots have them on full in the dark. Mine is only set to full when I ride TTs with it in the summer. There are 3 brightness levels and unless I'm in the middle of nowhere mine is always on the lowest. Great Lights!
 
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