Road Cycling

FrenchTart said:
You can say what you like but you'd be wrong.

However. Let's knock this on the head. This argument is going nowhere.
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How is it I am wrong- when I apply braking power, you can still push the bike forward , pushing down on the bars so get lots of grip between tyre and floor (the wheels still rotate so pads are slipping, so not enough braking power)- I yet to come across a customers disc brakes equal or superior to the boardman carbon £900 bike.
 
hornetstinger said:
How is it I am wrong- when I apply braking power, you can still push the bike forward , pushing down on the bars so get lots of grip between tyre and floor (the wheels still rotate slipping)- I yet to come across a customers disc brakes equal or superior to the boardman carbon £900 bike.
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If your statement was "I don't like disc brakes" then you'd be right - that is your opinion and you're perfectly entitled to express it.
 
I work in a bike shop.

I am aware of disc brakes requiring a bedding in process, so not fair to compare say new bizango versus boardman road bike. However when customers bring in bikes that have cable or hydraulic brakes I have a chance to try the brakes myself. Not impressed so far.

Then issue of oil on the rotor- pads would be ruined. Don't get that with rim brakes. Then tolerences between pad and rotor .5mm. Then single piston cable brakes.

And when you compare the budget cable disc brakes (say customer brings in a Apollo disc brake bike they're woeful. I would expect even low end disc brakes to surpass V-Brakes. Wheras the brakes on the Raliegh Loxley (V Brake) and Carrera Axle have insane braking power.

Get them insanely close between pad and rotor (cable) and still nothing brilliant.
 
#Chri5# said:
Point proven driving into work this morning - there's a blind, 90 degree right (so you can't take it fast, even in the dry) and I ended up going straight-on, down a drive as the corner was like an ice rink.
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Yup, so many frozen parts in the shade, thankfully lots of mud/leaves around make it easier to spot the frozen sections and thankfully no black ice! Things look like they warm up as the week goes on, fingers crossed that's a trend that'll continue rather than us having our typical Jan-Feb-March 'UK winter'! :eek::rolleyes:
Shamrock said:
I'd only care about a front disc brake since that's where you should be putting most of your braking power.
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Lots of overbar fun without a rear on there too!? ;)
hornetstinger said:
Plus disc brakes are crap.
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You may as well give that opinion up in here mate, fair enough you think that but there's dozens of us here who'll argue with you every time you state it. You won't 'win', but I'll agree every brake is situational (and so is every tyre, every frame etc etc).

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. In my opinion any commuter in the UK would benefit from disc brakes, as a significant percentage of our UK commuting weather is in wet conditions where in my opinion disc brakes are significantly better than any other. :cool:

ELEMNT worked well at lunch (2 rides in). Going to play much more with it later, really like the way it works so far, just feels like a breath of fresh air coming from a Garmin unit. It's fast, snappy quick in comparison to my 810 (which wasn't exactly slow) and the implementation with the app driving the configuration works very, very well! Just leads you through 2-3 minutes max and the thing is completely configured. I'm not sure I'm going to even miss a touchscreen! :eek::cool:
 
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Disc brakes are for fannies. Can we go back to talking about real man bike stuff now please?

Things like, how I broke my Garmin Vector pedal pod?
Has anyone with Vectors bought and installed the Vector 2 upgrade kit? I have had to order it, didn't see the point spending £50 on a new Vector 1 pod when I could go full upgrade for £100 so I have had to sink more money.

I've done 6 hours past 2 days and not having my megawatts data is depressing me. All I have is heart rate info, and we all know that's not even real man stuff anyway.
 
xdcx said:
Things like, how I broke my Garmin Vector pedal pod?
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Either:
1- You had an epic crash at massive high speed and bounced your bike down the road. Picked yourself up, picked you bike up without a single grunt of pain, chewed through the remaining wire the pod was dangling from and continuing on your ride.
Or
2- Ham-fisted xdcx tried to use his tools.

...I know what my money is on ;)
 
Roady said:
ELEMNT worked well at lunch (2 rides in). Going to play much more with it later, really like the way it works so far, just feels like a breath of fresh air coming from a Garmin unit. It's fast, snappy quick in comparison to my 810 (which wasn't exactly slow) and the implementation with the app driving the configuration works very, very well! Just leads you through 2-3 minutes max and the thing is completely configured. I'm not sure I'm going to even miss a touchscreen! :eek::cool:
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I'll be interested to hear how you get on with it. I was totally sold on the Elemnt, then I got my fenix 3 and decided I wanted to keep all my data within the Garmin bubble but if they don't pull their finger out soon and get all their kit talking to each other properly I might have to re-evaluate that situation again.

Until then I'm stuck with my Edge 200 and fenix 3 combo :p :o
 
touch said:
Either:
1- You had an epic crash at massive high speed and bounced your bike down the road. Picked yourself up, picked you bike up without a single grunt of pain, chewed through the remaining wire the pod was dangling from and continuing on your ride.
Or
2- Ham-fisted xdcx tried to use his tools.

...I know what my money is on ;)
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:D:D:D It was on the Kickr, I put the pedals on and never clipped one in properly and it caught the chain when I was in 11 on the back and pushed one of the contacts in :p
 
xdcx said:
I've done 6 hours past 2 days and not having my megawatts data is depressing me. All I have is heart rate info, and we all know that's not even real man stuff anyway.
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Ever consider the last ride you did with power the average was so low the pod suicided...? :p;)
Shadowness said:
On the topic of vectors, if I go down that route, I can't decide if single or dual sided would be better......
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Dual is 'better' but you've got to decide if the cost is worth it.

I, decided I would get on a Wattbike to check Left/Right power distribution before deciding as quite a bit of a price difference for maybe not that much gain. I've not done it yet, but probably not going the pedal route now.
touch said:
2- Ham-fisted xdcx tried to use his tools.
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xdcx's toolbox:
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xdcx said:
Disc brakes are for fannies. Can we go back to talking about real man bike stuff now please?

Things like, how I broke my Garmin Vector pedal pod?
Has anyone with Vectors bought and installed the Vector 2 upgrade kit? I have had to order it, didn't see the point spending £50 on a new Vector 1 pod when I could go full upgrade for £100 so I have had to sink more money.

I've done 6 hours past 2 days and not having my megawatts data is depressing me. All I have is heart rate info, and we all know that's not even real man stuff anyway.
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The upgrade kit is very easy to use, just don't forget the additional spacer. I got sent some replacement spindles for vector 2s after they were replaced when they failed under warranty.
 
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