Road Cycling

£680/6.8kg challenge.

Did some poking around earlier and there's a few planet x nanolights going for 400ish as complete bikes. Flog the heavy bits to pull some funds, build a pair of kinlin xr200 wheels and you're away.

My mate had a 6.8kg nanolight when they were new and he didn't even have to use SRAM red or silly bits to get there
 
I ended up putting my elemnt on my comuster this morning. It's all good! Uploaded my ride via my phone this morning with minimal fuss.

It's got map data on it. Where's it got that from? I didn't even realise it came with built in maps.
 
Couldn't you get near even cheaper using a Chinese carbon frame? Or are they only predominantly made using the run of the mill standard carbon with ~1.5kg+ frames? A second hand racelight might be an even cheaper way of doing it, but you may not get below 7kg with an alu frame. Is Ti lighter than alloy?

With a training course yesterday I went out for a later than planned blast on wednesday night as I couldn't face the turbo in that humidity/heat!

https://www.strava.com/activities/1069427389

Ate a BBQ 45 mins before probably wasn't ideal, put a good threshold effort in but soon started to suffer from a stitch/indigestion which I couldn't quite shake. Rode mostly tempo back. Happy with the efforts and legs feeling great otherwise (and so they should, I'm low on mileage!). 15 miles @ 19.5mph 243 NP. :)

Looks like my CX bike was more damaged than I thought. New RD required. Just trying to get Evans to price match CRC so I can pick the RD up tomorrow and use it on Fri/Sat.
Derp :(

There's a couple of Ultegra RD's on the Wiggle Ebay page at the moment, most seem to sell for ~£45-50. I may pick one up to replace my 5800 which is getting noisy.

Basically this - in a left turn only lane, sat in a lorry's blind spot, then stay in the lorry's blindspot and try to blame someone else for their idiotic behaviour.
This is totally it, I agree the cyclist is at fault and not the lorry driver. But I do feel there is a lot of blame to place on the Department for Transport with the stupid ASL and filter lane designs we have everywhere. The majority of lighted junctions these days have left hand filter lanes with an ASL, every one of those cyclists in the video has been encouraged to filter up the left hand side of lorries at a lighted junction. So when they come across the situation above they think they are 'in the right' and 'safe' even without any road markings, which is UTTERLY WRONG!

https://beyondthekerb.org.uk/2013/10/15/tipping-out-the-paint/

Heh. I'm the same, though I do manically Strava everything. I like the building and the fixing and all sorts as well as the riding. I can totally see the appeal of your £680/6.8kg challenge.
I like my spannering more than most (certainly more than most in the of clubs I'm in!), but equally I end up in situations where I don't know 'what to do next'. :(

While we're on the subject, fellow spanner monkeys, what would you do:

Have a problem at the moment with my Diverge - creaky bottom bracket. Everything else has been eliminated. I've removed and re-greased cranks/spindle umpteen times, tested bearings and they feel clear/clean, removed seals and added more grease to bearing races and I still get a pronounced 'click' once per pedal revolution when stood or pushing out over 450W more than a couple of pedal strokes. I've bought the special Praxis Works adaptor to remove/fit the PF30 BB but with the short 3/8" socket I have I'm not enough man to get it unscrewed. I'm also unsure of how much pressure I can safely place on the OSBB without damaging my frame (thinking iron bar on the end of my socket). Although the BB sleeve is so tight it may not be that... I'm half tempted to replace the bearings as I can do those easily to eliminate them, but the current just don't feel 'gritty' in the slightest... Certainly less stressful & less expensive than damaging my frame! :o

Question... if I have Bluetooth on can it upload my rides via my phone? It says it can do it via wifi but can it do it this way?
Yarp. Although if like me and you'll mostly be using the WiFi upload directly from the ELEMNT your ELEMNT smartphone app will have a ton of activities to sync whenever you turn BT on and go into it... On android my app will report as 'not responding' a number of times as it takes 5-6s per activity to sync it. With my 3 commuting activites per day you can imagine the amount I rack up... 390 rides so far this year according to Strava! :o

***DO NOT TRY TO SELL OUTSIDE THE MM***
 
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Couldn't you get near even cheaper using a Chinese carbon frame? Or are they only predominantly made using the run of the mill standard carbon with ~1.5kg+ frames? A second hand racelight might be an even cheaper way of doing it, but you may not get below 7kg with an alu frame. Is Ti lighter than alloy?
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The planet x nanolight frame was 920 marketing grams, probably more like 1050 in reality, and you can find complete used bikes with "not the right components for a project like this, but they have resale value" for 400 quid or so. The other thing I was considering was a CAAD9, but the nanolight seems to be the sweetspot. The lightest alloy frames are probably lighter than the lightest ti ones, and ti is phenomenally expensive....

it's pretty easy to do it with an alu frame too. I've even seen a steel one done, but it had very costly kit...
 
I'd like a ti frame one day (gotta catch 'em all) but the prices start at £lol and go all the way up to £gtfo.

^ :D

I've had a great summer of cycling so far. Amusing to see how much I've taken to road and track cycling. Last Sept I was pootling around Worcestershire's finest hills and woods on my MTB, needing a hosepipe every time I got home, now my MTB doesn't feel like my MTB any more it's had so little use. I now have a deep chest drawer full of lycra, my daughters have road bikes, I have a road bike (I think I'm on my 3rd in 10 months), we've all joined the local cycling club and I've just bought myself a track bike to be collected later today and I'm aiming towards joining next season's track league (I train with A cat and B cat kids generally but in racing I'd be in with the Veterans as I'm 45).
 
Cyclists that can't stand having you in front so then launch a mild sprint every time you overtake them despite maintaining a constant pace... :rolleyes:

One guy the other day overtook me seconds after I overtook him on a hill then almost launched his rear wheel into me as he cut in and stood up! Got fed up and launched an attack to keep him well back.
 
What if cycle lanes were in the middle of the road, offside, if you like, rather than nearside? Sure you'd get overtaken on the left, rather than the right, but cars wouldn't have to move out to get past you, and you'd be facing oncoming cyclists, rather than bigger vehicles (assuming the roads were wide enough to accommodate such a layout)
 
And anyone overtaking at speed, sticking their nose out from behind a lorry to look, dozing off at the wheel and drifting over the middle line and generally driving badly, will kill a cyclist. They just wouldn't work outside of towns and cities on 'open roads'. Inner city they may, but then equally you can't have disparate systems.

Get rid of filter lanes at lights. Any proficient cyclist doesn't need/use them in stationary traffic anyway as they're dangerous with all of the HGV's and Buses we have. You could change lights to allow cyclists off first before lorries/traffic (or have cyclist specific lights) with a lighting sequence which favours traffic to flow, rather than sit in queues (I know very hard on our congested roads). Guide traffic/cyclists towards the path of least resistance whatever is proven that is.

The biggest change we need to make is in road law. Make drivers accountable for their actions. ENFORCE LAWS. The current laws are not enforced and 75% of motorists are not even aware of the highway code. The laws have needed revising/overhauling for at least the last 30 years. Make vulnerable road users things to avoid on the road, rather than targets for inconvenienced for motorists to direct their rage at with no recourse.
 
Laws are already pretty solid, they're just badly enforced and jury trials for motoring offences are an utter farce.

Every morning riding to work I come to a junction with one lane leading up to the junction and two lanes on the opposite side, ready for another junction 100 yards down to the road, one ahead only, one left turn only. The first junction has traffic lights and is slightly uphill. There's an ASL but we all know how well people observe them. Pretty much without fail I ride through that junction at the left side of the road, then carry on in the left turn only lane in spite of the fact that at the next junction I'm going to go straight on. I can't go straight into the ahead only lane, because I'll be doing like 3 mile an hour trying to get started going uphill with a queue of cars behind me. So I have to press on and take my chances either switching lanes if it's not busy, or just sailing through the second junction in the wrong lane. What else am I supposed to do?

Google Maps linky. One lane this side of the junction, slight incline, two lanes on the other side with short distance to next junction. No choice but to do the wrong thing.

To that end, I sympathise with the cyclist in the video, because where else was he supposed to be? His lane choice is understandable. The part where it gets silly is him waiting in the blind spot and pressing ahead. As soon as someone overtakes in that sort of situation i.e. with the road narrowing for whatever reason, you should slow down and let them get past you. Maybe they shouldn't be overtaking like that, but if it's a choice between being technically right but also technically dead, I'll settle for letting someone else do the wrong thing.
 
Get rid of filter lanes at lights. Any proficient cyclist doesn't need/use them in stationary traffic anyway as they're dangerous with all of the HGV's and Buses we have. You could change lights to allow cyclists off first before lorries/traffic (or have cyclist specific lights) with a lighting sequence which favours traffic to flow, rather than sit in queues (I know very hard on our congested roads). Guide traffic/cyclists towards the path of least resistance whatever is proven that is.
I've just come back from Budapest and they have dedicated lanes and lights. Looked to work very well, they were smooth, wide and traffic was forbidden to go into it unless to park. Unlike the UK where we have dotted lines and I rarely see a car out of them.
 
If there's no room to sit in the correct lane at the front then you should wait behind the vehicle. Sitting in the left hand lane and then effectively merging in to the right, without making your intention clear, is asking for it. Darting ahead would have been safer than staying the blind spot with the false belief you're doing nothing wrong. Stupid and dangerous.

If there's no clear marked designated area at traffic lights for cycles then wait in line like everyone else.

I really do think there should be some sort of proficiency test for cyclists just like there is for moped riders. Theory test and a CBT minimum. It gets tricky though to both enforce and police and not to mention is costly and impractical.

If people knew the highway code and weren't unintelligent we wouldn't have this problem :p :)

Humans!
 
A proficiency test for cyclists is good to at least teach the skills required to cycle on the road, however, I encounter motorbike riders and drivers on a daily basis that probably have licences but do things that would have failed them in an exam.

Not indicating, dangerous overtakes, undertaking, speeding, red light jumping, playing with mobile phone, stopping in ASL or yellow boxes... etc
 
A proficiency test for cyclists is good to at least teach the skills required to cycle on the road, however, I encounter motorbike riders and drivers on a daily basis that probably have licences but do things that would have failed them in an exam.

Not indicating, dangerous overtakes, undertaking, speeding, red light jumping, playing with mobile phone, stopping in ASL or yellow boxes... etc

Learners will have only done a CBT and it is pretty easy (less than 2 hours on road) and no requirement for them to have even done a theory test. It's really quite dangerous :/

Though I heard they may soon be required to do a theory test too.
 
To that end, I sympathise with the cyclist in the video, because where else was he supposed to be? His lane choice is understandable. The part where it gets silly is him waiting in the blind spot and pressing ahead. As soon as someone overtakes in that sort of situation i.e. with the road narrowing for whatever reason, you should slow down and let them get past you. Maybe they shouldn't be overtaking like that, but if it's a choice between being technically right but also technically dead, I'll settle for letting someone else do the wrong thing.
I don't totally agree that the road laws are ok, but I wholly agree that the justice system needs a rehash/overhaul long before the road laws.

In your situation, depending on how traffic was flowing I'd be in that ASL to take primary for the light change to get myself in that right hand lane. Without a friendly light change you're correct - that option is pretty much taken away from you in flowing traffic as I bet drivers are in their 'lane' long before the road actually splits (with anyone turning left probably already cutting through the filter lane before the ASL). The letter of the law - you should be in that right hand lane as technically you're breaking the law by going straight on in a left turn only lane... Road laws are ok? ;)

Having a filter lane up the left hand side puts you in that situation - without left filter lanes traffic wouldn't expect us to be in the gutter all the ***ing time and we'd get less abuse taking primary... Especially in your situation.

I've just come back from Budapest and they have dedicated lanes and lights. Looked to work very well, they were smooth, wide and traffic was forbidden to go into it unless to park. Unlike the UK where we have dotted lines and I rarely see a car out of them.
I'm not a huge fan of segregated cycleways as all they do is decrease the exposure motorists have to cyclists.

When we have no segregation the both parties are generally more amicable to one another, the amount of abuse I get when not taking a segregated cycle path on half of my commutes is hilarious. I don't take it at lunchtime as traffic is generally quieter, it's loads slower and would mean crossing the oncoming carriageway 6 times in a 1 mile stretch as it's the opposite side of the road (the other direction, I would be joining/leaving the carriageway 6 times) . It's an utter waste of time!

Have a good weekend all! ~40 mile club ride tomorrow for me followed by ~30 solo. My last block of 'training' & big ride before the imperial :o
 
I'm off to my parents this weekend. I'll hopefully be able to take my bike and get in a 30 miler first thing on Sunday. They live on the Wirral which is pretty flat, but it's quite nice countryside. Good riding, assuming the wind coming in off the sea isn't too strong!
 
Boo, my glasses broke on my ride home this evening. I felt something sharp on the side of my head and found the arm had broken and was digging into my head. I've got a spare pair to make do with for now, but has anyone got any recommendations in the £40-50 price range?
 
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