Robert Jordan’s fantasy epic The Wheel of Time coming to TV

More evidence the showrunner never bothered to read the books as apparently Rand's mother was aiel according to him..spoiler, she wasn't.

They have an advisor on the show who has apparently read the series 25+ times, and she seemingly knows the series inside and out.

His mother was a member of Far Dareis Mai, as was depicted in the scene in episode 7. What's wrong with that?
 
They have an advisor on the show who has apparently read the series 25+ times, and she seemingly knows the series inside and out.

His mother was a member of Far Dareis Mai, as was depicted in the scene in episode 7. What's wrong with that?

At no point in the show did they actually say she was Aiel, and she was Far Dareis Mai in the books, but the red hair makes you think they have her as Aiel I suppose.

https://decider.com/2021/12/17/the-...ideo-episode-7-cold-open-blood-snow-tigraine/

pregnant Aiel woman
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but it feels like this is a person who has trained their whole life.

She was an honorary member of Far Dareis Mai, from memory she had only been with the Aiel for 5 years after leaving Caemlyn
 
All I see is a low budget TV series, bad writing, bad lighting, cheap actors (apart from one), mediocre special effects (in first 6 episodes). Heck they cannot even get Mashadar right in Shadar Logoth.

Where is, Mordeth, Elaida, Galad, Elayne, Min, Gawyn, and most important of all, The Forsaken are MIA.

And they can't even get The Eye of the World right, it was a reservoir of pure Saidin, not the HQ of The Dark One...That was Shayol Ghul.

If this lasts beyond Season 2, amazed...

Ignorance is bliss? I haven't read the books, so don't have any expectations that aren't being met, so as long as most people watching it are like me, and enjoy it enough, it can plod along. :)
 
Ignorance is bliss? I haven't read the books, so don't have any expectations that aren't being met, so as long as most people watching it are like me, and enjoy it enough, it can plod along. :)
tbh it has a low budget/sterile feeling, the casting is quite iffy and so far it doesn't seem like a whole lot really happened.
the pacing is probably too slow for most viewers? and we are several episodes deep, when it should probably be more like 4-5 if the pacing were good

the latest ep was a bit
of a cop out really, oh look it's about to get good.... oh we subverted your expectations and fooled you haha

this is the kinda show that will get really good just as it gets cancelled
 
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She was an honorary member of Far Dareis Mai, from memory she had only been with the Aiel for 5 years after leaving Caemlyn

Quoting a third party doesn't really prove your point.

She was an Aiel woman (if only by virtue of having chosen to be one, just like Egwene in the books became an honorary Aiel woman), and looks like she has been training her whole life isn't she has been training her whole life, in the books it even talked about how she went all in to become the best that she could be.

If anything the one thing that was wrong was the red hair, as Rand would have got that from the father and not the mother, who as you say wasn't born an Aiel.

The opening scene was the best part of the show for me and in fact one of the closest things to the books.
 
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She was an honorary member of Far Dareis Mai, from memory she had only been with the Aiel for 5 years after leaving Caemlyn

I think you're getting caught up in the writings of one reviewer. I wouldn't suggest basing an entire argument - and making yourself seem quite petulant in the process - upon one critic's interpretation.

That Judkins referred to her as an Aiel woman doesn't mean much - to the viewer she is a Aiel at that stage and he's hardly going to give away but plot twists in an interview is he?
 
I think you're getting caught up in the writings of one reviewer. I wouldn't suggest basing an entire argument - and making yourself seem quite petulant in the process - upon one critic's interpretation.

its not an interpretation tho is it

That Judkins referred to her as an Aiel woman doesn't mean much - to the viewer she is a Aiel at that stage and he's hardly going to give away but plot twists in an interview is he?
ahh, so they are adding pointless scenes for a 'plot twist' that isn't at all relevant until they get to Rhuidean, and even then isn't really that major, but have scrapped all other world building from book 1 because the average viewer wont appreciate it? Its just another amendment that the showrunners have added as they are talentless hacks that cant even follow a 10,000 page, 4 million word book series without thinking they can improve on it.
 
Its not a pointless scene, it was completely relevant to the episode as it was the episode the dragon was confirmed to be who they are.

I also love the books, but at least moan about the things that make no sense - changing of the ways, no Caemlyn etc etc, rather than one thing that is closer to the books than anything else.
 
The ways is the main part I dislike - it leaves an open question as to how Padan Fain entered and exited. I can imagine it being easily covered, but its a big departure if they go down the route I suspect.
 
"Low budget" is the wrong accusation to level. The reported budget is actually quite decent. Accounting for inflation, it's similar to GoT S1 and The Witcher S1.

The big budgetary difference between this and GoT is that the GoT showrunners were careful with VFX and action sequence expenditure. They even skipped the Battle of the Green Fork to ensure they had money to spend on what they saw as more important stuff. The WoT showrunner decided to go the opposite way, adding new action sequences which weren't in the book. And as such, they've had to cut back in other areas (costumes being one obvious one).

Well that budget does not show on my TV screen.
 
Camelyn was missed out for whatever reason, but has been referenced - this will obviously exclude Elaida, Elayne, Galad, Gawyn.
Min is in episode 7
The Foresaken (Ba'alzamon) has been in numerous scenese with the caverns of fire for his eyes
As to the Eye of the World - time will tell in episode 8 what will come of it

I recall no mention of the Forsaken thus far...
 
I recall no mention of the Forsaken thus far...
They were mentioned in the warder episode - they had small figurines of them.

Also Ishamael has popped up in a few dreams. TBH I think his introduction has been very clumsy.

One of the gripes I have is that the showrunners seem to believe that despite changing much of the original story and inventing quite different plots, all they need to do to keep some of the book fambase onside is to make a few references and nods to the books. The dreams being one of them.
 
They were mentioned in the warder episode - they had small figurines of them.

Also Ishamael has popped up in a few dreams. TBH I think his introduction has been very clumsy.

One of the gripes I have is that the showrunners seem to believe that despite changing much of the original story and inventing quite different plots, all they need to do to keep some of the book fambase onside is to make a few references and nods to the books. The dreams being one of them.

This is a dreadful TV series. If it was not based on the books, it still would be bad.

Cheap actors, check. Bad cinematography, check. Bad scripts with terrible delivery, check. The list just goes on.
 
Well that budget does not show on my TV screen.

They certainly don't use the budget well.

GoT was very light on VFX. In Season 1 it was mostly used to flesh out sets, turning a small physical set in to an expansive shot of King's Landing or Winterfell, or The Wall. Direwolves and Dragons received minimal screen time. And it wasn't until the 19th episode that the showrunners delivered a battle sequence.

WoT starts off with a big battle, full of CGI characters, in episode 1. There's (likely) three big battles in the first season. Trollocs, Myddraal, and other fantastical creatures received more screen time in the first seven episodes than Direwolves and Dragons saw in the first two seasons of Game of Thrones.

WoT was always going to be far more action-oriented and more reliant on VFX than GoT. The show needed careful management. Instead, we got episodes of expensive-to-film original content :cry:

Episode 4 was the equivalent of Jon Snow arriving at The Wall in Season 1, only to find it under assault by Mance Rayder's army :p An unnecessary waste of a tight budget.
 
This is a dreadful TV series. If it was not based on the books, it still would be bad.

Cheap actors, check. Bad cinematography, check. Bad scripts with terrible delivery, check. The list just goes on.
I'm confused by the cheap actors comment.

GoT had almost complete unknowns in many key roles. The same goes for WoT, but with the addition of Golden Globe winners, BAFTA and Emmy-nominated Rosamund Pike and Sophie Okonedo, who has an Oscar nomination.
 
I'm confused by the cheap actors comment.

GoT had almost complete unknowns in many key roles. The same goes for WoT, but with the addition of Golden Globe winners, BAFTA and Emmy-nominated Rosamund Pike and Sophie Okonedo, who has an Oscar nomination.
The 'unknowns' in Got were mainly the children, they packed the rest of the season 1 cast with established award winning actors such as :
Sean Bean
Peter Dinklage
Lena Headey
Iain Glen
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
Mark Addy
Jerome Flynn
James Cosmo
Jason Momoa

WoT has a miscast Rosamund Pike, a laughable Sophie Okonedo as Suin. They aren't remotely comparable. The casting in WoT is total ****.
 
GOT had a ton of older actors who were superbly cast even if they had small roles
still love that scene old nan is 10/10

aemon was pretty awesome too, needs more old people in TV shows please....


in the last few years it seems like a lot of TV shows are totally ruined by whomever cast all the actors

the 100 series even managed to do a pretty decent job of casting with young seemingly unknown actors.
 
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