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Not necessarily something along the lines of that design - but the design itself shows some interesting engineering concepts that while nothing earth shattering aren't as easy as they look to actually make work - IMO they have the potential to learn from the experience and make something that might work better in the arena.
no it didn't. it was any engineering, anyone can throw to gether some flimsy steel plate and a piston.
they didn't even test it and they said one of its designs was to get out of the pit, as we saw the pettels just bent and even they didn't they would have lifted themselfs up to the top of the pit, then what, they would have still been stuck.
which every way you look at it is was just rubbish, no planning, no engineering, nothing intresting and not even tested.
and no that design is dead on arrival, far to much weight shared between far to many elements making it useless. as do all multi weapon bots.
I'd assume the concept would be to spread out so they couldn't fall into the pit - AFAIK once in you are out whether you can subsequently get out of the pit or not?
You are way too quick to rubbish what looks like promising first steps albeit in this case heavily flawed ones.
You are way too quick to rubbish what looks like promising first steps albeit in this case heavily flawed ones.
its not promising first steps, yes the pettles are so large that its meant to be able to lift them out, but they still have no way of actually moving of the pit.
and no there is literally nothing promising about it, everything is just extremely poor and useless and wouldn't work, even with a total redesign.
and no there is literally nothing promising about it, everything is just extremely poor and useless and wouldn't work, even with a total redesign.
Slow down - so quick to rubbish stuff you aren't even reading my posts properly.
no, im reading fine thanks.
they themselves said it was designed to lift them out of the pit. go look at the wiki page about it for more info.
there is nothing good about that bot, it could be beefed up, but it still wouldn't survive or cause any damage.
far to many weak points and multiple hammers, meaning each one cant delivery any damage.
Fair enough looked on the wiki and that is what it says there - but I'm pretty sure that it doesn't matter if you can climb out of the pit or not - once you fall or are pushed into it you are out. The petals would make it much harder to put them into the pit though when spread out defensively as from many angles they'd ostensibly be too wide to fall in. (I can only assume someone got the wrong end of the stick when updating the wiki).
Never said there was anything good about the bot itself - but they got a (sort of) working bot with many engineering aspects functioning even if the end result was underwhelming - certainly plenty of potential there to bring something better in the future plus a unique perspective on it.
Never said there was anything good about the bot itself - but they got a (sort of) working bot with many engineering aspects functioning even if the end result was underwhelming - certainly plenty of potential there to bring something better in the future plus a unique perspective on it.
even this is flawed thinking, they would be stuck over the pit, where they would have two choices, close petals and fall in, or be counted out. They have no way of moving themself off the pit.
That's the thing though, there isn't potential. You haven't given one potential upside of the bot, every design choice is severely flawed.
Can it be improved yes, but it will still be utterly useless.
The petals are a weak point, carbide or any other rotary bot would tear them off.
Unless they trim weight of they require to many powerful actuators so the petals cant provide enough power to do anything.
Unless they make the petals vastly stronger which would also mean adding more weight, then they will just bend under the weight of the bot as we saw this time.
Splitting the weapon into 4 "to give defence" doesn't give any defence and will do no damage.
it needs to be thrown in the bin and start from scratch. or just replace the team with a decent one as they clearly have no clue.
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Wyrm guys were a good laugh at least
As you say TR2 would be more of the same but a more credible entry - personally I'd have been miffed to have made it to the final of last series and be told no thanks for this series when the alternatives do nothing.Who's likely from a wildcard perspective? Does anyone know how close filming was of the final vs the heats? IE would it be conceivable that Apollo/Pulsar could be repaired in time (assume not?) and if not does that make Thor the most likely once more?
The span is quite large with them fully open - sure there is a good chance the wheels would be suspended over the pit but also theoretically gives them more margin. I don't disagree with what you are saying about the bot - but I disagree with the last bit about having no clue they clearly entered that bot to have a bit of a giggle and I think you underestimate what it takes as inept as that bot was to get it all even somewhat working and functioning in the arena - IMO with this experience under their belt and the ability to both build robots and bring something unique they could have potential in the future.
Thor was quite prominently featured in the wildcard segment but who knows - while it might be a little contrived bringing him back again I hope they do - atleast that bot makes for interesting fights and the drive is on another level to most bots which makes it interesting to watch in action.
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I actually hope Thor ISN'T given the wildcard, again. Mainly because he had it last year and he's suffered the same fate with reliability.
Ultimately, he had a chance to compete and was knocked out. They shouldn't keep giving him a chance to win it with the wildcard or what they're basically saying is Thor gets 2 lives, everyone else gets 1. That's not fair. He has a fantastic robot but he needs to improve the weapon system which he won't properly do if they keep giving he second chances.
I'd fully support Apollo getting the wildcard as the credible winner of last season, who only went out due to the crap 2hr time limit.
Ultimately, he had a chance to compete and was knocked out. They shouldn't keep giving him a chance to win it with the wildcard or what they're basically saying is Thor gets 2 lives, everyone else gets 1. That's not fair. He has a fantastic robot but he needs to improve the weapon system which he won't properly do if they keep giving he second chances.
I'd fully support Apollo getting the wildcard as the credible winner of last season, who only went out due to the crap 2hr time limit.
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Wonder what happened to Razor? Did they just give up completely? I personally hope Eruption win, awesome robot and probably the best driver on the series imo. It's not a boring spinner and actually has to be able to drive around and do stuff.
Assuming you'd need a runner up from the heats that gives us potential option list of;
Sabretooth
Cherub
Thor
Pulsar
Apollo
Of those only Cherub/Thor come to mind as ready to go assuming no big time gap between the heats and the final. I'm personally on the 'anyone but cherub' bandwagon but would love to see Pulsar or Apollo back in with the wildcard. Thor I hope doesn't get it to be brutally honest but I'd much rather him than Cherub and like the idea of something other than another spinner
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Razor was a dinosaur when it came back and i think they get persuaded to do for nostalgia purposes above anything else. I would like to see them come back with a new design. I wouldn't mind apollo being the wildcard but they get destroyed in the last fight and i'll be impressed if they manage to get out a half working robot in the time.
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Like everyone else I'd be happy with any of them except cherub. But remember aftershock totally demolished sabretooth so they might not be able to compete as well as apollo.
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It was definitely unreliable. I think it lost more by getting stuck on the floor and driving into the pit than it did by getting beaten