Rome 2 : Total War

honvik said:
Ah the so so critical aspect of a new release that is huge on scale.

Rome is adding so many new systems to it that some problems were a given. Performance wise not everyone is suffering but I'll be right to say that CA have always come back and fixed the game up, given freebies out and then quality DLC's post patches.

For me on my GE70 MSI laoptop its running quite well in extreme graphic's modes with little slow down. I think a lot of the issues are somewhat driver/config's of peoples systems.

The other issues are of course the systems that were added not working as intended :). for example as Carthage i've managed to sail a fleet into the Roma area and take rome :) good old fleet!!!. That being said battles are an issue but is it also a case of people used to 'mods'? for example a lot of mods expand unit sizes so unit sizes are huge compared to vanilla. Sea/Land battle combinations are very fun indeed tho.

All in all I'd not say its the 'worst' it has a log going for it and review wise I wouldnt review this game until some patches are out. Would i recommend this as a purchase? YEP.
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Pretty much spot on.
 
Why are they not releasing the patch notes until the day of release? Are they hiding anything.

Amazon made major error in Culture DLC, still waiting on mine,
said by end of 6th, slightly angry.
 
havenrl said:
Why are they not releasing the patch notes until the day of release? Are they hiding anything.

Amazon made major error in Culture DLC, still waiting on mine,
said by end of 6th, slightly angry.
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Got my DLC code from Amazon this morning so it is in progress. I cannot see why there has been such an issue with this.
 
havenrl said:
Why are they not releasing the patch notes until the day of release? Are they hiding anything.
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I imagine because of the timescales they are working to they probably want to avoid "promising" fixes, encountering something that delays them and then the community screaming bloody murder when said fix doesnt make it into the patch on time. :rolleyes:
 
I wouldn't worry about the DLC unless you are determined to play as a Greek city. Sparta is abit of a pain needing to kill Athens when they like you and want alliances n stuff but you need to take that city to make decent money with trade.
 
I'm debating trashing my Britania troop production and relocating it to Celtica instead so it takes less time to get troops to the front lines. Dunno if it would be worth it though, it woul d take a while and cost quite a bit.

Anyone figured out an optimal province setup for a troop production province yet?
 
I have a few niggles so far but nothing that cannot be fixed or missed too much and please do not take this as an outright gripe as I do enjoy the game even with them.

1)The AI seems a tad stupid at times which I'm sure can be fixed.
2)I'm sick of it telling me my populace is either content or unhappy with the situation but doesn't tell me if this is a good or a bad thing and what effects it has.
3)At the end of a turn if someone has a trait or something to assign it just says "so and so has something you need to sort out bla bla bla" Now While I have 2 agents 2 fleets and 3 generals its bad enough trying to find out who it is but I can imagine that getting frigging annoying.
4)It has stopped telling me when I am not researching
5) Diplomacy seems borked.... sick of people asking me for money each turn and people I am at war with or want to trade with will reject my proposals even with large amounts of money and then suggest the same thing come their turn but with lower or no cash incentive.
6) I did a mixed land/sea assault on a town yesterday with the enemy having massive sea back up. I landed all my ships and then the enemies ships proceeded to just spin around each other in the sea for 10 minutes before coming and attacking me.
7) Performance does not seem to be tied to graphics settings, the game handles the same for me on low as it does on extreme, all in all OK at best
8)This game needs a season per turn not a year, 20 turns in my general died from old age for christ sake.
9) Why not family tree :(
10) The amount of random things that have been removed such as Guard/Watchtowers etc :(
11) Mini cut scenes having being all but completely removed :( I Loved watching my ninjas attempt to kill someone and falling over :(
12) Im not 100% sure on this whole capture point thing as plenty of times I should have outright lost a battle due to re-enforcements but I managed to capture the point before they got to me and won on a technicality.

Now things I have enjoyed about the game

1) I like the new city management and while it is dumbed down a fair bit the tech trees are nice and simple.
2) Garrisons in towns depending on tech and buildings, This is amazing, I hated having to have standing armies in towns just for defence in the older games
3) Provinces.... oh they are nice :)
4) I love the fact you cannot just have small stacks of units running around everywhere without a general :)
5)Reinforcing and resupplying in the field is very nice :)
6) Creating groups and group moves :) This is a nice addition and it may have been in Shogun 2 but I missed it if it was.


The game isn't amazing in its current state but I wouldn't go as far as to say I would request my money back. It has some issues yeah but then what TW game didn't when it was released. They have no demo and do no active Beta testing that we are aware of. I am happy they are actively patching the game and we will get weekly content. But I think the reason this one is getting such negative reviews is the sheer volume of people who have this game over the others and lets face it, The game promised a lot and hasn't delivered all of it... that and people love to complain.
 
Woogie said:
I have a few niggles so far but nothing that cannot be fixed or missed too much and please do not take this as an outright gripe as I do enjoy the game even with them.

1)The AI seems a tad stupid at times which I'm sure can be fixed.
2)I'm sick of it telling me my populace is either content or unhappy with the situation but doesn't tell me if this is a good or a bad thing and what effects it has.
3)At the end of a turn if someone has a trait or something to assign it just says "so and so has something you need to sort out bla bla bla" Now While I have 2 agents 2 fleets and 3 generals its bad enough trying to find out who it is but I can imagine that getting frigging annoying.
4)It has stopped telling me when I am not researching
5) Diplomacy seems borked.... sick of people asking me for money each turn and people I am at war with or want to trade with will reject my proposals even with large amounts of money and then suggest the same thing come their turn but with lower or no cash incentive.
6) I did a mixed land/sea assault on a town yesterday with the enemy having massive sea back up. I landed all my ships and then the enemies ships proceeded to just spin around each other in the sea for 10 minutes before coming and attacking me.
7) Performance does not seem to be tied to graphics settings, the game handles the same for me on low as it does on extreme, all in all OK at best
8)This game needs a season per turn not a year, 20 turns in my general died from old age for christ sake.
9) Why not family tree :(
10) The amount of random things that have been removed such as Guard/Watchtowers etc :(
11) Mini cut scenes having being all but completely removed :( I Loved watching my ninjas attempt to kill someone and falling over :(
12) Im not 100% sure on this whole capture point thing as plenty of times I should have outright lost a battle due to re-enforcements but I managed to capture the point before they got to me and won on a technicality.

Now things I have enjoyed about the game

1) I like the new city management and while it is dumbed down a fair bit the tech trees are nice and simple.
2) Garrisons in towns depending on tech and buildings, This is amazing, I hated having to have standing armies in towns just for defence in the older games
3) Provinces.... oh they are nice :)
4) I love the fact you cannot just have small stacks of units running around everywhere without a general :)
5)Reinforcing and resupplying in the field is very nice :)
6) Creating groups and group moves :) This is a nice addition and it may have been in Shogun 2 but I missed it if it was.


The game isn't amazing in its current state but I wouldn't go as far as to say I would request my money back. It has some issues yeah but then what TW game didn't when it was released. They have no demo and do no active Beta testing that we are aware of. I am happy they are actively patching the game and we will get weekly content. But I think the reason this one is getting such negative reviews is the sheer volume of people who have this game over the others and lets face it, The game promised a lot and hasn't delivered all of it... that and people love to complain.
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As much as I love this game, I do agree on most of your negatives there, and definitely agree on your positives.

Turn time in particular is a bit dumb, I am sick of my generals and agents dying before I can put them to proper use. Didn't actually notice the lack of watchtowers yet but yeah that's disappointing too.

Provinces, city management and new garrisons are some of the best things to happen to TW in a while imo. Much smoother and while it does need more micromanagement and planning it doesn't feel like as much of a chore as city management could feel like in previous games. And yeah, the lack of random small stack spam all over the place is more than welcome for me.
 
there's already a mod to change the number of turns per year.

I'm still waiting for the postman to deliver the game. Can't really complain about the lack of a dlc code until that arrives I guess :D
 
Just got my pre-purchase money back from Steam, I asked for it 12 hours before launch after I'd read a few reviews and it became obvious nothing had changed. They even stuck it back on my card without asking, I was expecting them to try and fob me off with Steam Wallet 'money'.
 
jakspyder said:
I've got the DLC my mate doesnt, we can play multiplayer fine. Only I could use the greek states, but I was able to join his none DLC hosted campaign fine and play as sparta while he played rome.
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Yeah that's what I figured.
Not bothered about playing them in campaign yet as I'm playing as others. But I would like to try being them online :)
 
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