Rosie Jones

Nitefly · 24 Nov 2022 at 16:34

dowie said:
He's literally one of the best comedians around right now, there's a reason why he and Gervais still have big Netflix specials despite causing outcry among the fully woke, they're still democrats/liberals and they'll bring in the viewers and ratings despite the ranting of the vocal minority.

I can see the comparison with Gervais, although Gervais has this ‘bully’ side to him which I’ve always found a bit witness.

I also really disliked his take on the Will Smith slap thing. Basically Gervais said “he was bang out of line - nobody should be attacked for words”. Classic bully mentality of I’ll attack everyone from my tower - everything I do is fine.

Chappelle’s take was much better and classier: “It was painful, because I could see my own struggles in both men.”

The way I see it, telling edgy humour is like playing with fire. If you’re not skilful, you’ll probably get burned. Sometimes, the wind might blow the wrong way and you’ll still get burned. The risk of being burned is something you have to deal with.

I did enjoy Chris Rock’s take on it though: “People who say ‘you’ve hurt my feelings’ are clearly never people that have been punched in the face.”

Saw Rock and Chappelle at the O2 recently, was fabulous.

GGizmo · 25 Nov 2022 at 14:57

I think the edgy humour relies on the ability, or assumed ability from a 3rd party view, of the target being able to respond back in kind.

Disability is a touchy subject to many people who've never been around a disabled person. I think disabled people are the last group to get acceptance to be thought of equally, which is probably down to the nature of disability not being the same for everyone.

I know I've been in a situation when I was at college and I turned up early for the next class. I was waiting in the corridor. This other guy appeared who I knew from the class. I tried to initiate a conversation with him and he literally blanked me. There was only me and him there. There is a lot of anxiety for people when they aren't used to being around a disabled person and start to make assumptions.

Peter75 · 25 Nov 2022 at 17:12

You're not beholden to find her funny because of her disability. I don't find her funny at all and it's because of the fact that her deliveries suffer because of her disability and in my opinion you are not a bad person for thinking so. Facts are facts, there's a reason the phrase "comedic timing" exists.

https://www.masterclass.com/articles/guide-to-comedic-timing

Props where props are due though. Choosing comedian as a career choice takes some stones and is extremely difficult even for abled body people. You have to understand your own limitations and play to your strengths, personally I think she should stick to writing. If I were a comedian, it would be soul destroying to be told most of your laughs are based on sympathy and not because of your material.

Tony Edwards · 25 Nov 2022 at 17:20

Peter75 said:
You're not beholden to find her funny because of her disability. I don't find her funny at all and it's because of the fact that her deliveries suffer because of her disability and in my opinion you are not a bad person for thinking so. Facts are facts, there's a reason the phrase "comedic timing" exists.

https://www.masterclass.com/articles/guide-to-comedic-timing

Props where props are due though. Choosing comedian as a career choice takes some stones and is extremely difficult even for abled body people. You have to understand your own limitations and play to your strengths, personally I think she should stick to writing. If I were a comedian, it would be soul destroying to be told most of your laughs are based on sympathy and not because of your material.

I have to be honest I did watch one of her stand ups before and it was funny in parts but her new series might be different. The clips dont look too bad, maybe about the same level most new comedy stuff.

Hug the donkey hug the donkey.

dowie · 2 Jul 2023 at 17:02

She's getting a bit of flock now for using the r-word as if it's anything like using the n-word ..

But of course, she has a physical disability rather than a mental disability so it's not clear she's really got an r-word pass.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674814323753988096

Malevolence · 2 Jul 2023 at 17:09

dowie said:
She's getting a bit of flock now for using the r-word as if it's anything like using the n-word ..

But of course, she has a physical disability rather than a mental disability so it's not clear she's really got an r-word pass.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674814323753988096

She doesn't need to do a documentary, she could've just tweeted me and I'd've answered her question free of charge.

robfosters · 2 Jul 2023 at 17:24

She’s not a retard as she doesn’t have a mental disability. She does however fall under the offensive term of a cripple, or particularly where I come from, a raspberry

uber soldat · 2 Jul 2023 at 17:56

Ssshhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeee iiiiiiiiiissssssssssss nnnnnooooooootttttt fffffffuuuuuuuuunnnnnyyyyyyyy

Kelt · 2 Jul 2023 at 18:00

robfosters said:
She’s not a retard as she doesn’t have a mental disability. She does however fall under the offensive term of a cripple, or particularly where I come from, a raspberry

Ah, cockney rhyming slang for a raspberry nipple, got it.

robfosters · 2 Jul 2023 at 18:14

Kelt said:
Ah, cockney rhyming slang for a raspberry nipple, got it.

Nipple? Ripple you mean.

Efour · 2 Jul 2023 at 18:18

loool Raspberry ripple.

I miss Romford. (sometimes)

Whitewater · 2 Jul 2023 at 18:18

Reminds me of a time one of our managers gave his team a ticking off for something they’d done wrong and he mistyped “regards”.

I’ve not found Rosie Jones particularly funny.

Kelt · 2 Jul 2023 at 18:19

robfosters said:
Nipple? Ripple you mean.

UTT · 2 Jul 2023 at 18:58

Cracking threepenny bits

GGizmo · 2 Jul 2023 at 19:47

I don't think R is as offensive as the N word because in a weird way the R word as been used more as a slang term to more none disabled people than disabled people.

Also Channel 4 did do a documentary with the N word in the title. A documentary by Darcus Howe. It's a documentary that focused on inter ethnic groups being racist towards each other. This was before the white liberals decided no ethnic minority could be racist.

gingergundog · 2 Jul 2023 at 20:05

Kelt said:
raspberry nipple

One of my favourites

dlockers · 2 Jul 2023 at 20:08

Utter crap and it is a shame the BBC is publishing it. They had an incredible lady on Radio 4 a while back who diagnosed a retard as a child, and she proved them wrong time and time again, until she earned her PhD. An amazing listen.

glenimp617 · 2 Jul 2023 at 20:12

Never knew she was funny, but she's an absolute babe!

I've thought about her many a time

dowie · 2 Jul 2023 at 20:13

dLockers said:
Utter crap and it is a shame the BBC is publishing it. They had an incredible lady on Radio 4 a while back who diagnosed a retard as a child, and she proved them wrong time and time again, until she earned her PhD. An amazing listen.

Channel 4 not the BBC.

Do you have a link or anything more to go on as "retard earns PhD BBC Radio 4" isn't" turning up much?

Was it a misdiagnosis as it seems a bit sus that someone legitimately retarded would be able to complete a PhD?

dlockers · 2 Jul 2023 at 20:20

dowie said:
Channel 4 not the BBC.

Do you have a link or anything more to go on as "retard earns PhD BBC Radio 4" isn't" turning up much?

Was it a misdiagnosis as it seems a bit sus that someone legitimately retarded would be able to complete a PhD?

I had a quick Google but unfortunately can't find it. She was an older lady, and basically overheard her "diagnosis" and lived her life trying to convince herself it wasn't true. I've tried various key words but I'm not getting a hit. She wasn't "legit" retarded but she had a "legit" diagnosis.

dowie said:
Channel 4 not the BBC.

Even that is disappointing.