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RTX 3070 Price - are they really worth it?
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I'm currently running a 2070S and saw today that OCuK had some 3070's in stock for £900 but as I can still play all my games ok i've spent all of the money elsewhere.
Unless your GPU has blown or you need a new GPU to play a new game which won't run on your existing card, there is no justification giving OCuK your money at this moment in time.
Unless your GPU has blown or you need a new GPU to play a new game which won't run on your existing card, there is no justification giving OCuK your money at this moment in time.
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Just hold out for a little longer.
Cards are starting to become more available. Once it gets to a point when they are not selling… they will drop back down to a realistic selling price.
Retailers aren’t going to sit there with piles of cards and scalpers won’t risk their money as the scalping market will have died off.
Cards are starting to become more available. Once it gets to a point when they are not selling… they will drop back down to a realistic selling price.
Retailers aren’t going to sit there with piles of cards and scalpers won’t risk their money as the scalping market will have died off.
I agree OCUK could have sold these cards all day long for £750+ but they chose to look after their customers/forum members. This sort of thing goes a long way I for one will use OCUK over any other retailler wherever possible now.
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A 3070 at £900 I wouldn't entertain, it's basically 2080ti performance with less vram. The 2080ti was laughably expensive and would anyone buy one now at £900? Msrp would have been a fair price relative to its performance, £600 at a push for a top AIB card, but beyond that. No. It's a hard pass.
Yeah id agree, remember those 5900X / 5950X that ocuk had listed for like £750 and £980 a couple of months ago yet now they are back to normal prices and at times even been available under MSRP.
If people hold their nerve and keep their wallets in the pocket then retailers will have no choice but to drop prices or end up swimming in stock they can’t shift.
8GB card for near a grand... someone is having a laugh and it ain't the people buying them... while it does OK for 4K games up to the previous generation it will quickly struggle above 1440p with newer games...
Anything over about £550 maybe a little more for a top tier cooler, etc. would be a hard no from me.
Anything over about £550 maybe a little more for a top tier cooler, etc. would be a hard no from me.
Yup. These cards are going to start seriously flagging in 18 months or so.
Would only entertain buying one at FE prices, and even then not the high end of the range. The lack of VRAM is one thing you can blame nV for, even if the AIBs are mostly to blame for inflating the prices. Some proper built-in obsolescence there.
I paid just over £600 for a 3070 Vision when they first came out.
I got lucky at the time and have been trying to get a 3080 ever since, but the prices are crazy and the 3080ti is a joke for the money (IMO).
Paying £900 is way too much for the performance, especially when you consider that they are over 6 months old now. Give in 12 months or less and the next release of cards will be close, AMD are already talking about the next generation.
When you consider that 3090's are staring to appear at £1500 on evilbay (bids), then I get the feeling things may change a bit soon.
I got lucky at the time and have been trying to get a 3080 ever since, but the prices are crazy and the 3080ti is a joke for the money (IMO).
Paying £900 is way too much for the performance, especially when you consider that they are over 6 months old now. Give in 12 months or less and the next release of cards will be close, AMD are already talking about the next generation.
When you consider that 3090's are staring to appear at £1500 on evilbay (bids), then I get the feeling things may change a bit soon.
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This is really a question for a school math teacher. Would if be worth it if the price of jeans, boxers, cigarets, milk etc were double MSRP?
If something is double MSRP then it's never worth it. That rule can be applied to anything, not just a GPU.
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OcUK probably aren't at fault here. Costs are wildly inflated along the entire chain, not just at the point of sale to the public. OcUK is just a business at one end of that chain, the end that we see. I don't know what their markup is, but I doubt if it's scalper levels. The system for manufacturing and distribution for many items was extremely fragile and is now broken. It will remain broken for some time yet because it lacks any significant degree of resilience, can only function under perfect conditions and has very limited ability to recover.
IMO paying double an already quite high MSRP for a midrange graphics card is not right. From a purely mercenary POV, it is right because the available stock is selling at that price. From a purely mercenary POV, the right price is as much as the market will bear.
As the song says, it ain't necessarily so. Companies set the MSRP at a point where every business can make a reasonable profit in normal conditions. Conditions are far from normal.
I think this video is a decent quick summary of the major underlying factor - extremely fragile systems that only function under optimal conditions.
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You can buy a complete laptop with a 2 year warranty for the price of a 3070 and be able to play all your games albeit at a lower res. You either have money to burn or are desperate enough as your current GPU is blown to buy a card right now.
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Maybe try to sign up to drop notices for the founders edition cards. The best I came across was the Telegram one, worked very well and within two weeks of signing up to it managed to bag a 3080 for £650
Let me say though, I've had plenty of aftermarket fancy cards over the years, but this founders edition 3080 is a thing of beauty. The box, the card, everything strikes of top notch quality, can't comment comparing to AIB ones but super happy with it and is incredibly quiet and cool running so not sure what extra performance you might get by spending hundreds and hundreds more on an AIB, my view, not all that much! sign up and give it a few weeks and you might end up with a FE for less than 600!
Let me say though, I've had plenty of aftermarket fancy cards over the years, but this founders edition 3080 is a thing of beauty. The box, the card, everything strikes of top notch quality, can't comment comparing to AIB ones but super happy with it and is incredibly quiet and cool running so not sure what extra performance you might get by spending hundreds and hundreds more on an AIB, my view, not all that much! sign up and give it a few weeks and you might end up with a FE for less than 600!
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there will be a 10-20% mark up from ocuk .. it's called business.. it's not hard for them to pull some strings and get the cards cheaper .. knowing the price will fall over the next couple of weeks which it did ..
yes it does seem like a good deal .. but 3 months down the line your still going to be rubbing in the ky
yes it does seem like a good deal .. but 3 months down the line your still going to be rubbing in the ky
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Yup, I saw some 6700xt come in stock today under 700 and I'm getting bombarded with lower price notifications on the 6800 xt's on my ebay watch list.
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Nope tbh I bought an FE at MSRP and even now I don't think that price it was worth it over my 1080 but it's a decent card so 900 quid lol nah but then again I don't think any gfx card is worth 900 quid but it's market driven, if people stopped buying them for 900 quid the price would drop but people are stupid so that's why we get stupid prices.
Depends a bit on resolution, etc. I'm using a 3070FE with a Xeon E5-1650 V2 clocked to 4.4GHz which is a 2013 era 6 core 12 thread CPU and at 1440p and above the bottlenecking is mostly minor, 1080p it is a bit more of a hit - you can certainly get useful performance out of a 3070 with that CPU - but it isn't worth a £900 upgrade.
Soldato
Nope.