Rtx 3080 lower quality capacitor Issue

deuse · 28 Sep 2020 at 15:46

der8auer is looking in to it...

Kaapstad · 28 Sep 2020 at 15:48

I am not anti Ampere either I am just saying it how it is.

For me Ampere SLI is very much on the cards when I can get my hands on some.

p1on · 28 Sep 2020 at 15:49

Kaapstad said:
I am not anti Ampere either I am just saying it how it is.

For me Ampere SLI is very much on the cards when I can get my hands on some.

How big is the increase in games today with SLI?

Kaapstad · 28 Sep 2020 at 15:51

p1on said:
How big is the increase in games today with SLI?

Most new games don't support SLI as this is something the game devs have got to do with DX12.

p1on · 28 Sep 2020 at 15:51

Kaapstad said:
If NVidia had not been greedy they would not have had to use Samsung 8nm and the cards would have been capable of more.

well they are doing this to make money

WatchTower · 28 Sep 2020 at 15:52

mat690 said:
Based on pictures from ASUS's website. The regular TUF card has the problematic capacitors and the OC version doesn't.

I just looked myself and they both look they have the good ones.

GioUK · 28 Sep 2020 at 15:54

Kaapstad said:
2000mhz is actually a pretty bad show for Ampere, it is on 8nm and also uses physically smaller chips than big Turing or Volta.

I think we knew from beginning the 30xx apart from the 8nm, there is nothing special. It is just more performance due to increase of the power. That is all. I do hope nvidia stars to re-think about it in the near future. Waiting to see which manufacture is gonna be brave to use 30xx on gaming laptops. Hahaha.

p1on · 28 Sep 2020 at 15:54

WatchTower said:
I just looked myself and they both look they have the good ones.

same here +1

TrM · 28 Sep 2020 at 15:57

GioUK said:
I think we knew from beginning the 30xx apart from the 8nm, there is nothing special. It is just more performance due to increase of the power. That is all. I do hope nvidia stars to re-think about it in the near future. Waiting to see which manufacture is gonna be brave to use 30xx on gaming laptops. Hahaha.

I think going forward laptops will disable the 3000 series on battery and use the new xe igpu on there new CPU’s and have 2 power bricks power supply to power it in desktop mode

and maybe docking stations will come back to cool the beast

Curlyriff · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:06

Kaapstad said:
2000mhz is actually a pretty bad show for Ampere, it is on 8nm and also uses physically smaller chips than big Turing or Volta.

But why, whom has decided that it is or why it is? You've just suggested it should be "cause" and that is about it. No AIB or Nvidia themselves have suggested or stated we should be seeing people able to overclock thier cards over the 2000Mhz.

So far Samsung 8nm seems really poor anyways, isn't any more power efficient from what Nvidia have shown to the TSMC 12nm previous. It from what we are seeing doesn't seem to be mature enough to be consistent as the core certainly seems to be part of the issue to date.

Zeed · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:10

They fixed up as I and everyone with brain would expect. Change boost behaviour and increase voltage.

Kaapstad · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:12

Curlyriff said:
But why, whom has decided that it is or why it is? You've just suggested it should be "cause" and that is about it. No AIB or Nvidia themselves have suggested or stated we should be seeing people able to overclock thier cards over the 2000Mhz.

So far Samsung 8nm seems really poor anyways, isn't any more power efficient from what Nvidia have shown to the TSMC 12nm previous. It from what we are seeing doesn't seem to be mature enough to be consistent as the core certainly seems to be part of the issue to date.

You have answered your own point.

Zeed · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:19

Kaapstad said:
You have answered your own point.

Ye those 8nm are like 10nm++++ ++++ + ++++++ more like. Think 2200 will be absolute maximum on this silicone on golden chips. Most wont be stable pass 2000

Joxeon · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:20

p1on said:
If we're looking at 20fps vs 22 it might seem a bit more

Is a game worth playing at 22FPS though?.

Kaapstad said:
If NVidia had not been greedy they would not have had to use Samsung 8nm and the cards would have been capable of more.

yeah, i agree that Nvidia cheaped out this time so maybe AMD will bring the overclockers dream GPUs this time around.

TrM · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:22

Zeed said:
They fixed up as I and everyone with brain would expect. Change boost behaviour and increase voltage.

next big thing on the internet omg nvidia nerfed the clock speed on my card to make up for bad caps and bad board design how dare you nvidia! Change.org petition income for sure.

p1on · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:27

Joxeon said:
Is a game worth playing at 22FPS though?.

bad brain to text from me..
meant if the fps drops below 30, 2fps can seem like a lot

SGz_Eliminated · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:29

Will have to wait for verification now following the driver update.

Curlyriff · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:36

Kaapstad said:
You have answered your own point.

Great but you've been banging on how they should all be smashing past 2000Mhz fine etc without any reason to give why.

That is the same as suggesting because AMD is on 7nm it should be at 3000Mhz compared to previous or whaterver then because it is a more efficient node but there is more too it for what Mhz is achieved than just the node.

hyperseven · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:41

I'm amazed at the amount of electrical engineers we have on here, especially specialising in power delivery :eek:

. It's comforting to have so many experts

p1on · 28 Sep 2020 at 16:58

there are quite a few of us here.
i believe this is all due to the impedans in the C-clock that leaves ripples in the ohms in the up/down components.