Caporegime
Interesting, this is worse than RTX 2080TI Spaces Invaders
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Rtx 3080 lower quality capacitor Issue
- Thread starter Shahzada
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- capasitors rtx 3080
Soldato
Whoa I'm lucky getting the Strix 3090. All 6 capacitors on the back are the smaller more premium cluster.
Let's put it this way. If the issue only occurred when an affected card hit 2ghz then only those with cooling good enough to do so would be affected. The issue only seems to rear its head at high clocks, so if people aren't hitting those clocks they won't have any issues
Sorry there is no defending this at all, this is a design issue, it should never have been allowed to happen.
Its a rushed botched launch from Nvidia and their partners.
You simply cannot defend this, if cards are failing at their advertised spec because the hardware setup is incorrect on the PCB, you cannot defend it by saying its fine, run it underclocked.
Take your nvidia shaded glasses off and head out of the sand
Caporegime
Buildzoid has some useful input:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GPFKS8jNNh0
All AIB PCB layouts are approved by Nvidia first.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GPFKS8jNNh0
All AIB PCB layouts are approved by Nvidia first.
the cards are hitting the advertised spec all of the are that’s not the issue
I'm not defending anything, I'm trying to explain why only some people with a bad card have run into the issue. Why do you think I'm defending this?
I haven’t persoanlly seen anyone saying they failed to hit speeds that printed on the box or in there marketing?
Yea, its a disaster atm.
Soldato
Looks like the ASUS cards will be selling even more now 
Associate
I got my Gigabyte 3080 gaming yesterday and havnt had any crashes yet while playing with it. Just heard about this issue and seems this card has the worst setup of capacitors so hoping it doesnt cause issues. Will keep testing over the next few days to see if anything happens but so far so good.
Its pretty quiet considering the last windforce cooler i had was super loud, tops out around 67 degrees at 75% fan in my setup. Will push the OC a bit and see if it induces any crashes like mentioned.
Its pretty quiet considering the last windforce cooler i had was super loud, tops out around 67 degrees at 75% fan in my setup. Will push the OC a bit and see if it induces any crashes like mentioned.
Look at the first post in the MSI Ventus 3080 thread on this very forum, stock card out of box crashing repeatedly, others getting the same.
https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-3080-sees-increasing-reports-of-crashes-in-games
These cards are unstable out of the box for many various reasons, incorrect boosts, dodgy capacitors, inferior components etc.
How people defend this is beyond me, are you so distorted by Nvidias marketing that they can now do no wrong?
Associate
Well that's the first manufacturer acknowledgement, so yeah I guess that confirms a issue.
That is pretty strong grounds to request a replacement / revised card imho.
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show me a product launch that doesn’t? Come on seriously for every one saying for Msi there zotac even the fe cards are doing the same. There are so many parts to the launch hardware and software alike. Can u name 1 product launch that doesn’t have horror stories?
I’m not defending anyone all I. Saying is there could be 100’s if not 1000’s of reasons for this come. There are plenty of people not having issues with the msi card on this forum
And I bet on Monday someone is in for a big telling off in evga about there wording of it also
nvidia won’t like it that’s for sure
Associate
Am sorry if this has already been posted but thought this from Videocardz was interesting. This is the manufacturers responses so far.
NVIDIA
At the time of writing, there was no official statement from NVIDIA.
COLORFUL
The manufacturer was the first to report on a issue unofficially to the press. Review samples that were already sent out, were later recalled.
EVGA
Recently there has been some discussion about the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 series.
During our mass production QC testing we discovered a full 6 POSCAPs solution cannot pass the real world applications testing. It took almost a week of R&D effort to find the cause and reduce the POSCAPs to 4 and add 20 MLCC caps prior to shipping production boards, this is why the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 series was delayed at launch. There were no 6 POSCAP production EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 boards shipped.
But, due to the time crunch, some of the reviewers were sent a pre-production version with 6 POSCAP’s, we are working with those reviewers directly to replace their boards with production versions.
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 series with 5 POSCAPs + 10 MLCC solution is matched with the XC3 spec without issues.
Also note that we have updated the product pictures at EVGA.com to reflect the production components that shipped to gamers and enthusiasts since day 1 of product launch. Once you receive the card you can compare for yourself, EVGA stands behind its products!
— Jacob Freeman, EVGA Forums
ASUS
ASUS has changed the design in pre-production. No official statement was made.
MSI
MSI acknowledged the issue during the MSI Insider Livestream, suggested it could be a driver issue.
ZOTAC
Igor’sLAB reports: PC Partner, Zotac’s mother company, seems to have recognized this and is obviously changing its cards.
GIGABYTE, GALAX and other brands
No official statement.
NVIDIA
At the time of writing, there was no official statement from NVIDIA.
COLORFUL
The manufacturer was the first to report on a issue unofficially to the press. Review samples that were already sent out, were later recalled.
EVGA
Recently there has been some discussion about the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 series.
During our mass production QC testing we discovered a full 6 POSCAPs solution cannot pass the real world applications testing. It took almost a week of R&D effort to find the cause and reduce the POSCAPs to 4 and add 20 MLCC caps prior to shipping production boards, this is why the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 series was delayed at launch. There were no 6 POSCAP production EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 boards shipped.
But, due to the time crunch, some of the reviewers were sent a pre-production version with 6 POSCAP’s, we are working with those reviewers directly to replace their boards with production versions.
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 series with 5 POSCAPs + 10 MLCC solution is matched with the XC3 spec without issues.
Also note that we have updated the product pictures at EVGA.com to reflect the production components that shipped to gamers and enthusiasts since day 1 of product launch. Once you receive the card you can compare for yourself, EVGA stands behind its products!
— Jacob Freeman, EVGA Forums
ASUS
ASUS has changed the design in pre-production. No official statement was made.
MSI
MSI acknowledged the issue during the MSI Insider Livestream, suggested it could be a driver issue.
ZOTAC
Igor’sLAB reports: PC Partner, Zotac’s mother company, seems to have recognized this and is obviously changing its cards.
GIGABYTE, GALAX and other brands
No official statement.
Associate
And I bet on Monday someone is in for a big telling off in evga about there wording of it also
Maybe.
EVGA and ASUS look to be in the clear, but the other AIB's will be like 'bugger' how are we going to wiggle out of this one (probably with a VBIOS update that pins the top end boost under 2Ghz).
@malccy, nice summary.
Everything I read showed that the difference between the cost of MLCC and SPCAPs is inconsequential. The decision was made probably based on what was available at the time that met one of the guidelines set for engineering by NVIDIA. I think saying they opted for a cheaper inferior part to save money is an oversimplification. I have read many posts that say there is a shortage of MLCC capacitors globally. If that is the case and a board maker had limited supply, they probably made an effort to use the MLCC on cards specifically favored by overclockers, and used the non MLCC designs on factory overclocked models that are not favored by them and would rarely see 2 GHZ. Granted it looks like Zotac may have flubbed their model designed for overclockers, but if you do not overclock, cards like the Gigabyte Gaming will probably be fine. If you buy a card that doesn't hit the clock speed on the box, or a card that is claims to cater to overclockers but can't overclock it, you would have every right to be mad. It really doesn't matter what capacity the AIB partners use if the card works. People are losing their **** over this but people like myself literally insert card and play, and I have seen nothing that says that says that even on the Gigabyte Gaming I will not be able to do this. If you overclock buy a card with the better capacitors config to overclock. Otherwise except in the case of Zotac's card which apparently attempts to overclock itself to 2kMhz, an overwhelming majority of people will get a card that does exactly what it says it does the box, regardless of capacitor configuration.