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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?
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I can think of at least 3 users on this forum. I am guessing you could easily name two of them
I don't think anyone would. Talk is free, but when it comes to putting money on the line, no one would buy a 7900xtx over a 4080 if those 2 cost the same.I can think of at least 3 users on this forum. I am guessing you could easily name two of them
I wanted an amd card this gen as well, but after I saw the reviews... Yikes. Both of them are disappointing
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Not these individuals.
The 7900 XT is a pretty good all rounder. Excellent 1440p performance, good 4K performance.
The price has to come down for AMD to do well, and to properly compete. I can only guess that they haven't been able to produce enough Navi31 GPUs, so prices have stayed high.
The card will sell better when frame generation becomes available on the AMD side.
The price has to come down for AMD to do well, and to properly compete. I can only guess that they haven't been able to produce enough Navi31 GPUs, so prices have stayed high.
The card will sell better when frame generation becomes available on the AMD side.
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The problem with the xt (and the xtx) isn't performance as such. Raster performance is good, problem is and when you are buying high end you want to enjoy a high end experience. And the moment you come upon a game with heavy rt, you can't, the card starts performing like a 3 year old card.
The reason I upgraded from my 3090 was not raster performance, it was the rt performance. Overdrive mode on cyberpunk is coming out in 10 days, and there is an expansion incoming. Not being able to enjoy these with a 1200 card like the xtx is just yucky.
Lack of dlss is also an issue. Fg is whatever, it's not really useful to the high end
Well, AMD is just there yet with RDNA3 - It's not an option.
It's not really much of an option either for most Nvidia cards, except at the high end, or if you play at low resolution.
Frame generation could potentially allow much improved RT performance with AMD cards, which is why I think AMD is taking their time with it.
In terms of features, RT is so intensive that these days, game developers don't even bother including RT without also including upscaling or frame generation options...
It's not really much of an option either for most Nvidia cards, except at the high end, or if you play at low resolution.
Frame generation could potentially allow much improved RT performance with AMD cards, which is why I think AMD is taking their time with it.
In terms of features, RT is so intensive that these days, game developers don't even bother including RT without also including upscaling or frame generation options...
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Similar raster / better RT / better power efficiency no brainer
But I wouldn't buy either at current pricing even if 4080 dropped to match price
Maybe you need to o scroll up a few more posts and you will see that was replying to a post going on about a 7900 XT in this thread?
Exactly. They all suck at current pricing.
Its nearly £400 (45%) more expensive for a difference of 15% performance, yes of course i would....
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You missed the last few pages? The 7900xtx is 20% faster than the 4080. Word just came in from amds headquarters.
For all our complaining about it it seems to be quite popular and at £800 vs £1200 for such a small difference in performance its really not surprising.
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It's not essential at all, but that's the point, when you are going for a high end gpu you are not looking to cover the essentials. The same thing happened with rdna 2, the price was good for the raster performance, but you couldn't play one of the most popular games of this generation, cyberpunk, at least not with rt.
RT in Cyberpunk is just bad on any GPU, its the game that makes people think "RT is no where near mainstream yet so why should i care?"
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If I bought a very high end card (say £1,000+) I'd like to be able to play with minimum framerates of 60 or above at 4K. That's pretty much all I would expect.
Because I know that ray tracing hardware just hasn't been scaled up enough yet, for the performance hit to be small. The generational improvement is not particularly impressive for RDNA2 + Ampere to RDNA3 and 'Ampere Next', regarding the number of ray tracing cores.
Because I know that ray tracing hardware just hasn't been scaled up enough yet, for the performance hit to be small. The generational improvement is not particularly impressive for RDNA2 + Ampere to RDNA3 and 'Ampere Next', regarding the number of ray tracing cores.
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