The sad part is that it makes us, brand agnostic users sound like nvidia fanboys just because we are defending... reality from the onslaught of ridiculous exaggerated and mostly flat out lies coming out of a certain camp. But what can you do, pretend the sky is green?It doesn't matter what you say or post, you'll still get the upsampling/dlss haters, literally every reviewer possible now has pointed out how dlss (and sometimes although very rarely, even FSR 2+) is better than native res. "overall" i.e. HUB, DF, TPU, computerbase, pcgameshardware, oc3d, gamer nexus (apparently some of them are the most reputable and only reputable sites when it comes to vram issues though, funny eh....) and of course all backed up with evidence, meanwhile, you still get the couple of posters on here who are adamant it's worse yet they still don't post anything to back this up and if they do, it's one specific scene cherry picked
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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?
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I wouldn't say DLSS or upscaling is the best thing that happened in the gpu space probably ever.
I find it making the game developers lazy not optimizing games
Unfortunately this is true but then again, if we didn't get it and devs didn't optimise, pc would literally be dead now or at least closer to being dead than it is now
Well sure, but we are already talking about high end cards so all of them are beyond the reach for most peopleThe 4090 is quite good to be fair, especially in traditional graphics performance (not gonna comment on the price and power supply requirements
But what that shows you is that it's far beyond the reach of about 99% of customers. I'd still argue the RT performance isn't good enough, hasn't been improved enough compared to the last generation (not including any other bells and whistles).
And the 4090 TI is still to come, no doubt.
There is no reason why the 7900xtx couldn't handle cyberpunk at 60 FPS, but instead it freaking loses to a 3090-barely beats a 3080. I'm not expecting amds mid range cards to play cyberpunk, but this is their flagship, and it's disappointing
A 4090 can't run Cyberpunk.
Not entirely disagreeing with that, but that's up to the game developers. Amd and nvidia offered them tools to push gamers into higher quality, they decided to skip optimizing instead. Dont blame the feature.
If it makes you sleep better, sure. I'm with ya. Sleep is precious, ain't worth losing it over this man.
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Or buy nvidia, which is the point
If none of them can run Cyberpunk, then none of them can run Cyberpunk.
Nvidia company can't come close to providing decent performance with RT on, at high resolutions.
Upscaling and frame gen aren't a factor if you are trying to make a fair comparison.
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Yes, if none of them could run Cyberpunk then none of them could run Cyberpunk. The 4080 and the 4090 can though. But try not to let that interfere with your sleep
Why not? I'll gladly buy an amd gpu and play at 4k with fsr quality if it could offer playable framerates. It can't.
At 1440P sure...... your £2000 card is a 1440P card.
So the 4080 is a 1440p card, and the xtx is a 1080p card. Agreed. Glad we are on the same page.
For a simple hardware comparison, you can't enable software features that are designed to improve performance.
A fair comparison can only show the performance of the hardware, and test nothing else.
Other factors can just be misleading to the reader, it's much better to show these factors being tested separately.
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I don't really care about making a hardware comparison, I just wanna play the damn game. The 4080 does it, the 4090 does it, the xtx does not. Which is a major flaw when you are targeting the high end, which the xtx does. Midrange cards failing in rt is fine, but your flagship? Icky
I'm talking about the 4090.
You just wouldn't run it with RT on, because it makes it unplayable, in which case what is the point in paying extra for a card that has RTX?
But I'm playing it with rt on, the heck are you talking about is beyond me.
But regardless, if the 4090 is a 1440p card the xtx is a 720p?
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