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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

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Rroff said:
I played through all of Jedi Knight Dark Forces 2 at like 9-25FPS LOL no way I'd do that these days though - IIRC I then got a Voodoo 1.
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Thing was back then I didn’t care what fps I just enjoyed the game for what it was. If someone had talked about frame rate I would have been like what are you on about…
 
rare said:
Thing was back then I didn’t care what fps I just enjoyed the game for what it was. If someone had talked about frame rate I would have been like what are you on about…
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Yeah I remember playing Star Wars: Dark Forces and I think my rig was dying at the time - it was there's an entrance to the hanger 30 metres away with stormtroopers. Next frame - in entrance to hanger
 
Mercurial said:
Played multiplayer Quake 2 on my Voodoo 1, and had around those FPS. SLI Voodoo 2s soon followed :)
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Quake 2 wasn't too bad on my Voodoo 1 - 800x600 thrashed it a bit due to running into the memory limits but 640x480 was mostly above 30fps and 512x384 mostly above 40. I did have one of the Obsidian boards which was a little beefier than the regular Voodoo 1 though.
 
Rroff said:
I played through all of Jedi Knight Dark Forces 2 at like 9-25FPS LOL no way I'd do that these days though - IIRC I then got a Voodoo 1.
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rare said:
I used to play hundreds of hours of perfect dark multiplayer at sub 20fps, kids these days don’t know how good they’ve got it!:D

On the PC, it depends on the game. An FPS needs a minimum of 60, but you would always prioritise FPS over graphics in an FPS. Something like a RTS, 30 could be playable.
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But didn't we have more fun on systems back then and gaming ?

Yes they really don't know how good they have it now but in a sad way they also missed out on some of the best times in gaming too if they grew up with todays levels of tech. Different times really.


Speaking of them times, you guys/girls should watch the Tetris movie.

 
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rare said:
Thing was back then I didn’t care what fps I just enjoyed the game for what it was. If someone had talked about frame rate I would have been like what are you on about…
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Exactly ... what we use to talk about then was the actual game and how cool it looked or sounded or the story. Tech only came into it when the game just wouldn't work on the hardware you may have owned and what I mean by not working is not even starting, not fps.

This is what I have been trying to say for ages on here, forget the tech sometimes and just enjoy the content. You know what's sad now most people feel they have seen everything before and in our time everything was new and unique.
 
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tommybhoy said:
Keep hearing 3090 is only 10% faster than a 3080, 3090's got higher lows than the 3080ti has avg fps?
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Its the 4070ti I'd be more concerned with, brand new £800 card and cant even match a 3080ti at 4k in max and 1% low.
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humbug said:
Control and Cyberpunk are pre RDNA and were never made with that GPU in mind. They are RTX demo's.

Later RT games tend to do much better on AMD GPU's, for example Resident Evil Village is the newest game TPU tested and the difference between the 4080 and the 7900XTX is 2%.
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Resident Evil Village use very limited amount of RT so the 7900XTX doesn't get crippled. Also 7900XTX is 12% faster in Resident Evil Village in raster but it loose to 4080 when RT is turned on. Therefore the 7900XTX get a much bigger penalty with RT in Resident Evil Village.

In games that heavily use RT (that transform the visuals to the next level) the 7900XTX get crippled because the RT capabilities are very limited.
 
Purgatory said:
But didn't we have more fun on systems back then and gaming ?

Yes they really don't know how good they have it now but in a sad way they also missed out on some of the best times in gaming too if they grew up with todays levels of tech.
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Purgatory said:
Exactly ... what we use to talk about then was the actual game and how cool it looked or sounded or the story. Tech only came into it when the game just wouldn't work on the hardware you may have owned and what I mean by not working is not even starting, not fps.
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Absolutely - games/the industry was more fun. I’m conscious of the fact that I was kid back then, but there was much more emphasis on just the game. Not frame rate analysis, and all this stuff.
 
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Haz123 said:
Incorrect. I do not give a rats backside about RT. I also do not care about Frame generation or upscaling of any type.

RT is just going to be used to drive sales of new cards by making the old cards just that little bit too slow when a new game comes out. We have seen this countless times over the past 20 years with shadows, pixel shaders and tesselation. A games company will take Nvs cash to build the game so it will only really run on the latest card and everyone will be just so tempted to buy the new shiny. With most of even the most demanding games you can either buy a 4090 or turn the RT down a notch and not notice a difference unless you like pretty puddles or to pause and pixel peep.

No matter how much Nv is trying to brainwash you into thinking it , RT is not the only feature that actually matters.
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If you are going to pay over £1000 for a gpu you should expect to turn on all the eye candy. RT is a big deal, it is the future, not just another feature.
 
kylew_is_back said:
games that heavily use RT (that transform the visuals to the next level) the 7900XTX get crippled because the RT capabilities are very limited.
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It depends on the title. Worse case it’s around 3080 levels, but it’s also comparable to the 3090ti in some other games. I wouldn’t call its RT capabilities very limited in that sense. In UE5 with Lumen the XTX is as fast as a 4080, and if plenty of games move forwards with UE5 those titles should play very well.
 
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Joxeon said:
Maybe right now but in 2 years time on new games it'll be struggling as the uplift on the 80 class is 20% lower this time around than what the 3080 had.
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Of course in 2 years it will "struggle" in cream of the crop games. Every card in the history of gpus does. But that's why games have settings to tune
 
Bencher said:
Of course in 2 years it will "struggle" in cream of the crop games. Every card in the history of gpus does. But that's why games have settings to tune
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The 4080 is pretty much the equivalent in performance of what a 3070ti was last generation compared to a 3090 though so it will age a lot worse than say a 3080 has done.
 
rare said:
Thing was back then I didn’t care what fps I just enjoyed the game for what it was. If someone had talked about frame rate I would have been like what are you on about…
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Yeah back then I did not get fps either. I did though when crisis came out. I used to play that with my heavily overclocked 8800 GTS and would get around 21fps at max settings as I recall. Was a lot of fun :)
 
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