Rx 6800 good enough?

[FuelledByHatred]

The RX 6800 is enough for everything apart from 4K IMO. Even at high Ultrawide resolutions it's still decent beating the 2080TI. Don't forget FidelityFX Super Resolution is coming. It's also a much better investment than a gimped VRAM 3070.

Don't listen to @Dontrocktheboat. You'll never be able to pick up a 6800 for £510 let alone a decent AIB one and a 6800 blows the socks off a 3060Ti.

I just thought it was funny how he claimed I didn't know the prices when he incorrectly claimed a 3070 is £450 when it's £470 on Nvidia's UK site (when they get 20 in stock for 2 mins every 4 weeks) . He's getting all his prices from the US store and doing direct conversion without adding on the 20% VAT we have to pay or factoring in the mark up that AIB cards always have.

 

[The Old School Gamer]

The RX6800 is a good card, faster than a 3070 accept in Ray Tracing.

Yet the uptake here has been some what sluggish, meaning it has been the only new graphics card to stay on the store shelf for prolong periods of time with no real interest from customers.
We thought it might be the price putting people off but most people state they don't like the drivers or they have had a past bad experience with stability.

Unsurprisingly the 3060ti and 3070 cards have been the real fast movers along with the 1660 Supers on the lower end.

 

[Poneros]

Since i have an RX 6800 - i will disagree about it not enough for 4k, it is plenty fine

Fine meaning what? Min. 30 fps? You're not gonna hold 60 fps at 4K even on low/med settings in demanding new games, that's discounting RT which it has trouble keeping 60 fps even at 1080p. And certainly the newer the game the more demanding it is generally, especially for AAA titles. Hell, even something uber optimised like Gears 5 isn't a real lock at 4K 60 for the new expac without turning down settings a lot. Even AMD sponsored titles like Godfall only see 50 fps avg. (and ofc the important number is really the 1% lows).

It's a cracking card for 1440p, or maybe 1080p + RT (50/50) but not really. It isn't a 4K card by any stretch except in older titles, and sometimes not even then. Which is fine, because even the 3090 has games where it buckles, 4K is just a boat-load of pixels.

 

[Johnny Silverhand]

Fine meaning what? Min. 30 fps? You're not gonna hold 60 fps at 4K even on low/med settings in demanding new games, that's discounting RT which it has trouble keeping 60 fps even at 1080p. And certainly the newer the game the more demanding it is generally, especially for AAA titles. Hell, even something uber optimised like Gears 5 isn't a real lock at 4K 60 for the new expac without turning down settings a lot. Even AMD sponsored titles like Godfall only see 50 fps avg. (and ofc the important number is really the 1% lows).

It's a cracking card for 1440p, or maybe 1080p + RT (50/50) but not really. It isn't a 4K card by any stretch except in older titles, and sometimes not even then. Which is fine, because even the 3090 has games where it buckles, 4K is just a boat-load of pixels.

Sorry got to disagree with that slightly. Cyberpunk and Microsoft flight simulator are the only two games the 6800 dips to 30 fps at 4K Ultra settings.
When i said the 6800 is not a 4K card I mean't it's not ideal and only slightly falls short at that aspect ratio and ideally you'd want a 6800 XT/3080 for 4K.

 

[Besty]

Newbie here

I originally got a 5700xt but it ran into a fault a few days after I was using it. Tried everything to fix it but nothing worked. RMA'd it to scan, I would've been fine with a replacement but I got a refund instead. Probably because any others are out of stock.

And here I am, looking for something else with my refund money and willing to spend a bit extra for something newer. But literally everything else is out of stock apart from 6800's (non XT). Should I wait a bit or just go for one?

The RX6800 is a good card, faster than a 3070 accept in Ray Tracing.

Yet the uptake here has been some what sluggish, meaning it has been the only new graphics card to stay on the store shelf for prolong periods of time with no real interest from customers.
We thought it might be the price putting people off but most people state they don't like the drivers or they have had a past bad experience with stability.

Unsurprisingly the 3060ti and 3070 cards have been the real fast movers along with the 1660 Supers on the lower end.

The 6800 is a superb card but the list price for an in-stock card is approx £820inc vat.

At that level you might as well stump to £1200 for a 6900XT aib.

The 6800 needs to come down to £500inc for it to make sense.

 

[Johnny Silverhand]

The 6800 is a superb card but the list price for an in-stock card is approx £820inc vat.

Umm not sure where you for the £820inc vat figure? I payed £740 for my currently in-stock 6800.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-39d-sp.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-39b-sp.html

 

[Harlequin]

Fine meaning what? Min. 30 fps? You're not gonna hold 60 fps at 4K even on low/med settings in demanding new games, that's discounting RT which it has trouble keeping 60 fps even at 1080p. And certainly the newer the game the more demanding it is generally, especially for AAA titles. Hell, even something uber optimised like Gears 5 isn't a real lock at 4K 60 for the new expac without turning down settings a lot. Even AMD sponsored titles like Godfall only see 50 fps avg. (and ofc the important number is really the 1% lows).

It's a cracking card for 1440p, or maybe 1080p + RT (50/50) but not really. It isn't a 4K card by any stretch except in older titles, and sometimes not even then. Which is fine, because even the 3090 has games where it buckles, 4K is just a boat-load of pixels.

Sorry but your wrong, the card is a great card - i look for 4k /60 , which is my monitor vsync and this card does that. RT is a gimmick(although in some titles i play it has it) but its fine for what i play at, 4k with max or near max settings.

 

[ICDP]

I had a 6800 for a few weeks that I paid £600 inc delivery for, or about 15% higher than MSRP. I play at 4K on a Freesync 60Hz monitor and the 6800 was definitely fast enough in modern games for high/ultra settings and stayed within Freesync range easily. The only thing it lacked was a DLSS equivalent to make RT viable. I would still have it and be happy had it not developed DP fault that meant an RMA. While it was back for replacement I managed to get a 3080FE for MSRP.

The 3080 is about 15% faster than a 6800 for non RT Games at 4K and about 8% better at 1440p, so if the 6800 is not good enough then the 3080 is hardly much better.

The real question becomes, is any GPU currently available at massively scalped prices good enough. But taking exclusively form a performance standpoint, the 6800 is definitely good enough at 4K and more than good enough at 1080p or 1440p.

 

[Besty]

Umm?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-39d-sp.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-39b-sp.html

Gibbos semi-secret stash don’t count

tbh the point still stands even with a £100 haircut from the big man. He is providing stock, he has looked after us he retains the legend i hope he sells them all and OCUK keeps making money. We need the site to survive and if you have the spends it’s a great card at £720.

But at that price level it’s for those fellow forum members that really really really really need a 6800 regardless of price or PCB quality level.

As good as Sapphire are, it’s still a Pulse and it’s priced like a God-Tier 6800XT will be later in the year.

That said, i would feel greater guilt buying a four year old 1080ti blower card for £450 off the flea than picking up a new pulse for £720.

 

[rallyslag]

The Nitro would be about £600 in a normal world. I paid £730. But sold my vega 64 about £150 over its normal value . So it did not cost me any more than it would any other time. So if you have a card to sell on why worry about the extra cost . At the end of the year you will still have the same amount of money in the bank as you would have even if you only paid£600 because you would not have inflated second hand prices!

 

[Johnny Silverhand]

Gibbos semi-secret stash don’t count

But at that price level it’s for those fellow forum members that really really really really need a 6800 regardless of price or PCB quality level.

What's that got to do with anything? Did you miss the 6800 Nitro for sale? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-39b-sp.html

The 6800 SAPPHIRE NITRO+ is arguably the best or second best 6800 AMD partner model.

The Nitro would be about £600 in a normal world. I paid £730. But sold my vega 64 about £150 over its normal value . So it did not cost me any more than it would any other time. So if you have a card to sell on why worry about the extra cost . At the end of the year you will still have the same amount of money in the bank as you would have even if you only paid£600 because you would not have inflated second hand prices!

I went from a Vega 64 LC > 2080 FE > 6800 Sapphire Nitro

 

[ICDP]

Sorry but your wrong, the card is a great card - i look for 4k /60 , which is my monitor vsync and this card does that. RT is a gimmick(although in some titles i play it has it) but its fine for what i play at, 4k with max or near max settings.

Yep, my experience also showed the 6800 a more than capable GPU at 4K with a mix of high/ultra settings on things like Watchdogs Legion or even Cyberpunk. The trick is disabling or turning down pointless FPS hogs like ultra shadows, DoF, motion blur, chromatic aberration etc. I have to do the same on my 3080 to keep close to 60 FPS at 4K in most modern games. The problem with all reviews these days is they tend to stick on a preset Ultra setting and give FPS that looks unplayable. Ironically the same reviewers then go on to do a "tuning" guide on many of these games. Suddenly a game they state was "unplayable" on card X/Y/Z shows a totally different outcome, where they tell you turning shadows to medium give a massive FPS boost at no IQ cost. It's funny that dropping shadows from Ultra to high in many games gives the same FPS boost as an expensive GPU upgrade.

 

[Johnny Silverhand]

Yep, my experience also showed the 6800 a more than capable GPU at 4K with a mix of high/ultra settings on things like Watchdogs Legion or even Cyberpunk. The trick is disabling or turning down pointless FPS hogs like ultra shadows, DoF, motion blur, chromatic aberration etc. I have to do the same on my 3080 to keep close to 60 FPS at 4K in most modern games. The problem with all reviews these days is they tend to stick on a preset Ultra setting and give FPS that looks unplayable. Ironically the same reviewers then go on to do a "tuning" guide on many of these games. Suddenly a game they state was "unplayable" on card X/Y/Z shows a totally different outcome, where they tell you turning shadows to medium give a massive FPS boost at no IQ cost. It's funny that dropping shadows from Ultra to high in many games gives the same FPS boost as an expensive GPU upgrade.

Well that's very reassuring to hear from someone that had their heart set on a 6800 XT but ended up with the baby version. I guess I can sleep at night now and hopefully overtime I can forget the 6800 even has bigger siblings.

The only thing that made me thought I needed an XT or 3080 is because I'm looking at 49" Ultrawide monitors but if the 6800 can handle 4k and those use 1 million less pixels I probably should not worry.

 

[ICDP]

I was in the same boat as you. I waited until AMD released Big Navi to see how it compared to the 3080. Unfortunately both AMD and Nvidia have messed up with supply vs demand and we have a shortage of anything even remotely close to MSRP. So I paid 6800XT prices for a 6800 out of "desperation" thinking I was settling for 2nd best.

Like I said above, my own hands on comparison of a 6800 and 3080 put the 3080 about 15% ahead on averagt at 4K and ~8% ahead in 1440p. In a demanding game that is the difference between having to drop shadows from ultra to medium on a 6800, instead of ultra to high on a 3080. Ignoring RTX or DLSS for in Watchdogs Legion, the 3080 is about 15-20% faster than a 6800 at 4K ultra but neither can do everything ultra (in my actual hours of gameplay testing) without dropping into mid 30 FPS at times. So getting close to 60 FPS on both a 3080 and a 6800 meant turning down shadows, turning off bloom, DoF and Motion blur etc. The difference in settings between the 3080 and 6800 was the 6800 needed shadows medium compared to shadows high. The difference when playing was totally unoticable.

Now having said that the ability in some games to turn on RT and DLSS cannot be understated. So AMD really need to get their DLSS equivalent out ASAP.

 

[SuperSic]

The RX6800 is a good card, faster than a 3070 accept in Ray Tracing.

Yet the uptake here has been some what sluggish, meaning it has been the only new graphics card to stay on the store shelf for prolong periods of time with no real interest from customers.
We thought it might be the price putting people off but most people state they don't like the drivers or they have had a past bad experience with stability.

Unsurprisingly the 3060ti and 3070 cards have been the real fast movers along with the 1660 Supers on the lower end.

If I could buy a 6800 for RRP, i'd pick one up RIGHT NOW.

 

[Iamzod]

I just bagged one of Gibbo's stash for £720. Yes it's high but the fact my RX580 is currently worth £250ish sort of makes up the difference.

 

[ICDP]

If I could buy a 6800 for RRP, i'd pick one up RIGHT NOW.

This wins the thread.

 

[doody]

The 6800 SAPPHIRE NITROS/ not that mutch slower than the 6800xt / and you can try running sapphire trix

 

[Poneros]

Sorry got to disagree with that slightly. Cyberpunk and Microsoft flight simulator are the only two games the 6800 dips to 30 fps at 4K Ultra settings.
When i said the 6800 is not a 4K card I mean't it's not ideal and only slightly falls short at that aspect ratio and ideally you'd want a 6800 XT/3080 for 4K.

You can't discount demanding games for counting under 4K gaming then go ahead and say "yeah, it's 4K card". Let's talk numbers and specific games (see below).

Sorry but your wrong, the card is a great card - i look for 4k /60 , which is my monitor vsync and this card does that. RT is a gimmick(although in some titles i play it has it) but its fine for what i play at, 4k with max or near max settings.

You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with reality. This is the performance of the card:

(1%/Avg)
Godfall: No. (42/51)| WDL: No (37/42)| ACV: No. (38/48)| Dirt 5: Yes. (62/69)| Death Stranding: Yes. (85/93)| MSFS2020: Heck No. (27/29)| Gears 5: Yes. (52/63)| HZD: Yes-ish (51/60)| ACOd: Yes-ish (43/63)| Anno 1800: No. (41/44)| Black Mesa: No. (43/48)| BL3: No. (43/46)| Control: No. (33/37)| Detroit BH: No. (52/58)| GR:BP: No. (29/33)

And again, that's without counting RT, that's without going overboard on diminishing returns effects, that's without a lot of things. We can spend all day picking games but the fact of the matter is if we're looking at the biggest recent releases it's not a 4K card, and only in games who are on the Nth re-use of old tech does it pass that test (eg Hitman 3). And it's only going to get worse as we're transitioning from old tech for old gen, it's going to be a lot more Cyberpunk results than Hitman.

Yep, my experience also showed the 6800 a more than capable GPU at 4K with a mix of high/ultra settings on things like Watchdogs Legion or even Cyberpunk.

You're not going to run CP2077 even at medium settings and reach 4K 60 with a 6800 (more like low 40ish fps at best). And the things you say to turn down for performance gains barely cost any in the first place (chromatic aberration et all, all post-processing cheap effects which will be in the <=1 fps range of perf hit).

 

[Harlequin]

You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with reality. This is the performance of the card:

(1%/Avg)
Godfall: No. (42/51)| WDL: No (37/42)| ACV: No. (38/48)| Dirt 5: Yes. (62/69)| Death Stranding: Yes. (85/93)| MSFS2020: Heck No. (27/29)| Gears 5: Yes. (52/63)| HZD: Yes-ish (51/60)| ACOd: Yes-ish (43/63)| Anno 1800: No. (41/44)| Black Mesa: No. (43/48)| BL3: No. (43/46)| Control: No. (33/37)| Detroit BH: No. (52/58)| GR:BP: No. (29/33)

And again, that's without counting RT, that's without going overboard on diminishing returns effects, that's without a lot of things. We can spend all day picking games but the fact of the matter is if we're looking at the biggest recent releases it's not a 4K card, and only in games who are on the Nth re-use of old tech does it pass that test (eg Hitman 3). And it's only going to get worse as we're transitioning from old tech for old gen, it's going to be a lot more Cyberpunk results than Hitman.

Again, you are wrong. I have an RX 6800 , and in the games i play at max or near max settings i play at 4k/60 . Quoting a review doesnt hold water , especially since the results vary so much on all of them. RT is also a gimmick and i leave it off. Do you actually own the latest generation of gpu ?

 

[turbot1984]

RT is also a gimmick and i leave it off.

Disagree! RT in Control and CP2077 at 4K looks bloody brilliant. Thats why I got an ampere not a navi