RX VEGA AIB Cards Information Needed?

Tacitus · 7 Dec 2017 at 18:10

The OC3D charts look worse, performance wise, than the reality because they rank according to 1080p performance, which a graphics card like this is wasted on.

The 1440p/4K performance relative to the competition is more forgiving, but at the price is still disappointing.

You would be daft to pay the premium for V64 over a 1070ti, daft to buy a 1070ti over a 1070, and daft to buy a 1070 over a 980ti, if price to performance is what you're concerned with.

LoadsaMoney · 7 Dec 2017 at 18:16

He wasn't using the right drivers there, the 17.11.1s had a problem reading its BIOS, the 17.11.4s fixed it.

AthlonXP1800 · 7 Dec 2017 at 19:36

Just saw Murpa posted in Vega 64 thread:

murpa said:
I contacted OCUK support in regards to the release date of the ASUS Vega 64 STRIX. The customer service agent said the supplier has put the release date back to January!!

Look like OCUK will have no custom Vega cards in stock for Christmas, PowerColor only shipped just 40 custom Vega 64 Red Devil cards worldwide when it was launched a week ago on 1 December 2017 accorded to Computerbase.

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-12/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-56-referenz-produktionsstopp/

So PowerColor probably could ship another 40 cards at end of December 2017 or push back to January 2018 before productions in Taiwan shutdown in 2 weeks advance before Chinese new year holiday. It do not look like AMD increased custom Vega 56 and 64 supply when it is incredible too close to Nvidia's Volta or Ampere launch in March 2018 at GTC 2018.

LoadsaMoney · 7 Dec 2017 at 20:29

Ouch!

murpa · 7 Dec 2017 at 22:56

Yeah. I emailed them last night about it and I got a reply this afternoon.

Its a pity because I was looking forward to getting the Strix to match the Maximus X Code.

I have a Freesync monitor so I wanted to get an AMD card for that.

AMD have stopped production on all reference cards too though. They've already been removed from stock in a lot of retailers. Does that mean AMD have NO Vega graphics cards for sale over the Christmas period?? That doesn't seem right? It doesn't make any sense for them to do that. That's a LOT of sales to be missing out on.

EDIT: Got some more confirmation from another retailer.

MadMossy · 7 Dec 2017 at 23:01

If that is the case then I can see why Raja was "sacked" as clearly they have no faith in their products

JediFragger · 7 Dec 2017 at 23:01

Record seller :cool:

MadMossy · 7 Dec 2017 at 23:04

Apparently there are only 40 Red Devil units being shipped to retailers before XMAS, that is just crazy

murpa · 7 Dec 2017 at 23:08

I just want Vega because I have a 3440x1440 75hz Freesync monitor.

Ive never used Freesync or GSync. Is freesync really worth it now that Vega AIBs are delayed until after Xmas? Would I be better off just getting a 1080ti STRIX instead I wonder?

Steampunk · 7 Dec 2017 at 23:10

It is pretty bad to just not have any presence in the market. People will just go to Nvidia and give them money. Maybe those people will become long term Nvidia customers and be lost to AMD for years to come.

murpa · 7 Dec 2017 at 23:27

Steampunk said:
It is pretty bad to just not have any presence in the market. People will just go to Nvidia and give them money. Maybe those people will become long term Nvidia customers and be lost to AMD for years to come.

Yeah I usually like to alternate brands. But if AMD can't even supply anything that competes with Nvidia then what are consumers supposed to do other than just buy Nvidia.

Like my last CPU was a AMD Phenom II 1090T. And for this build I have an Intel 8700k.

My last AMD card was a 6870 I bought in 2010, which I kept until 2013 when I got a GTX770. So for this build I was gonna go AMD.

This purchase is an important decision for me because it will be the graphics card I will be keeping for possibly 5 or so years. It will also be the most expensive PC component I've ever bought. And its looking like Nvidia is the only option, and AMD can't even put a card on the market.

The whole situation will create a loss of consumer confidence in AMD. AMD can't even get their act together to supply the product, which lowers my faith in their capability to support the product. I mean imagine if you were one of the few who already has an AIB card from say ASUS or Powercolor. If you need to RMA it for whatever reason then your **** outta luck because there's nothing to replace it with.

JediFragger · 8 Dec 2017 at 04:04

MadMossy said:
Apparently there are only 40 Red Devil units being shipped to retailers before XMAS, that is just crazy

Worldwide.

JediFragger · 8 Dec 2017 at 04:05

murpa said:
I just want Vega because I have a 3440x1440 75hz Freesync monitor.

Locked in FTW :cool:

Props to AMD for their strategy, nearly on a par with the Dark Side

Freddie1980 · 8 Dec 2017 at 11:04

I suspect a lot of those Vega cards are going directly to miners which imo is fair enough as not enough gamers buy AMD. You only have look at GTX1080 release and how people were losing their minds to buy a glorified mid range card (this forum slowed down to a crawl on release day) this what AMD are up against so if they can find a niche selling to miners then fair play to them.

JediFragger · 8 Dec 2017 at 11:19

Freddie1980 said:
this what AMD are up against so if they can find a niche selling to miners then fair play to them.

Yup, shame Vega costs AMD at least double to produce than a 1080+Mem.

Steampunk · 8 Dec 2017 at 13:29

Freddie1980 said:
I suspect a lot of those Vega cards are going directly to miners which imo is fair enough as not enough gamers buy AMD. You only have look at GTX1080 release and how people were losing their minds to buy a glorified mid range card (this forum slowed down to a crawl on release day) this what AMD are up against so if they can find a niche selling to miners then fair play to them.

Yes, it makes money in the short term, but what happens when miners move on to the next thing and dump their cards on the market? You end up with a load of burnt out cards on the second hand market showing how AMD products "don't last", even though they are taking away from new sales, and you end up with AMD having a reputation for not being the card for gamers for no other reason than everyone's been buying Nvidia (because there are no AMD cards or they are insanely priced).

Long term, it looks like AMD stepping away from the PC gaming market, even if they are making money right now from miners. It may not be the case, but if they can't get product out for people to buy, that's what it looks like and that's what reputation AMD will get for their inability to supply.

LoadsaMoney · 8 Dec 2017 at 14:40

Even Voltas beaten the custom Vega' out, Titan V available now!

JediFragger · 8 Dec 2017 at 14:52

Poor(er for buying) Volta

LoadsaMoney · 8 Dec 2017 at 15:26

murpa · 8 Dec 2017 at 20:43

I folded. Im not waiting for the Vega 64 Strix any longer. Been waiting since September. I changed my order to a 1080ti instead and its already on the way.

Might just sell my monitor at some stage in the future and get a G-Sync one instead.