RX VEGA AIB Cards Information Needed?

[ubersonic]

It never is AMD's fault is it ?

Well not when it isn't no, when high demand outstrips supply resulting in inflated prices that's hardly the fault of the supplier when they are trying their best to meet demand.

If it was a case of supplier limiting supply in the face of demand to jack up profit a la Nintendo then I could see the merit of blaming AMD, but as that's not the case it hardly seems fair to blame them for the mining boom lol.

 

[sideways14a]

Vegas stupid pricing is more down to the demand than anything else.
TitanVs stupid price is due to its die being the size of a small country.

And Intels high prices are due to greed

 

[Martini1991]

Well not when it isn't no, when high demand outstrips supply resulting in inflated prices that's hardly the fault of the supplier when they are trying their best to meet demand.

If it was a case of supplier limiting supply in the face of demand to jack up profit a la Nintendo then I could see the merit of blaming AMD, but as that's not the case it hardly seems fair to blame them for the mining boom lol.

There is no supply though as far as AIB models go and refererence are EOL.
There was no demand when the prices were high when it was just reference cards too as the stock counts just didn't move.

So it's not a mining issue.

 

[Martini1991]

Vegas stupid pricing is more down to the demand than anything else.
TitanVs stupid price is due to its die being the size of a small country.

And Intels high prices are due to greed

At the higher prices the references didn't sell. No demand.
Right now reference are EOL and there's no supply at all of AIB.

 

[JediFragger]

Right now reference are EOL and there's no supply at all of AIB.

Losing money on these hand over fist no doubt (when development costs are included). Idiots.

 

[MadMossy]

Vegas shortage isn't down to mining the minor hash rate increase you get over a 580 isn't worth double the cost, not forgetting that the Vegas also uses a crap load more power.

 

[RavenXXX2]

HBM killed Vega.

 

[Steampunk]

Vegas shortage isn't down to mining the minor hash rate increase you get over a 580 isn't worth double the cost, not forgetting that the Vegas also uses a crap load more power.

LOL! Might be better for AMD to not sell any Vega at all rather than lose money on each one! The optimist in me hopes they are going to surprise us with a new revision with process tweaks, but then I remember it's AMD we're talking about - there will be nothing new for ten months, nothing sensibly priced, it'll probably arrive late and under perform.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

HBM killed Vega.

Hasn't killed the Titan V, i wonder why

 

[Brazo]

I don’t recall there being a high demand for reference vega. I recall there being lots sat on the shelves until it was discounted in an EOL firesale.

As for AIB vega well it simply doesn’t exist (yet). And if/when it does I expect the prices will tempt only the fool hardy.

 

[ubersonic]

There was no demand when the prices were high when it was just reference cards

Not at launch no, but once it became apparent Vegas were mining gods they sold out in most places, I.E here Gibbo had to make the V56 one per customer in the final weeks and miners were still ringing him up to try and blag bulk orders. Hell in Russia one of the state owned banks had to issue a public apology for causing a national AMD GPU shortage lol.

Vegas shortage isn't down to mining the minor hash rate increase you get over a 580 isn't worth double the cost, not forgetting that the Vegas also uses a crap load more power.

There are two major flaws with this: One, it's completely wrong. And two, it's completely wrong. Now I realise that technically speaking that's only one flaw but I thought that it was such a big one that it was worth mentioning twice. (Be interesting to see if anyone gets that reference).

For reference a Vega card will perform just over twice as well as an RX580 while consuming roughly the same power.

 

[Martini1991]

Not at launch no, but once it became apparent Vegas were mining gods they sold out in most places, I.E here Gibbo had to make the V56 one per customer in the final weeks and miners were still ringing him up to try and blag bulk orders. Hell in Russia one of the state owned banks had to issue a public apology for causing a national AMD GPU shortage lol.

Vega has been out months, there was probably a month where etailers sold a handful. They just weren't selling at the higher prices, the last lot gibbo sold at the cheaper pricing.

At the end of the day.
There is nil supply, demand of one person would be too much lol

 

[jackass3_16]

There are two major flaws with this: One, it's completely wrong. And two, it's completely wrong. Now I realise that technically speaking that's only one flaw but I thought that it was such a big one that it was worth mentioning twice. (Be interesting to see if anyone gets that reference).

I can smell a Red Dwarf reference a mile off

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I can smell a Red Dwarf reference a mile off

Kryten!

 

[JediFragger]

Hasn't killed the Titan V, i wonder why

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[henson0115]

You really think amd are stupid enough to price them that high, it's retailers.... A blind man could see that

 

[Telecaster]

You really think amd are stupid enough to price them that high, it's retailers.... A blind man could see that

lol.

 

[henson0115]

lol.

you may laugh but we have already seen the devil increased in price, since when do manufacturers increase RRP after sales go live.

 

[Telecaster]

Nothing to do with the cost of HBM manufacture then, like pretty much everyone else already knows.

It was a poor decision from AMD IMO to go with HBM and stick with it, I know they did it to help save power as they need to run a power hungry die to keep up with NV, but still, it's hurting them more than helping I think.

They should perhaps stick to the mid range and £/performance rather than trying to compete with Nv, because they're clearly not up to it.

 

[henson0115]

has nothing to do with RRP though does it if the hbm price increases. that a completely separate ball game.