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RX VEGA AIB Cards Information Needed?

From what I have read the miners are getting the cards before they even get to the retailer. Why would the distributor sell to retailers for X price when a miner will offer X+50% I would sell to the miners! It is the fault of gamers for turning it into a single supplier market , Radeon don't have the money to invest in huge production volume and probably don't want to be caught out again. I only have Radeon graphics cards and would like to get a second Rx Vega64 but I can't at these insane (in the eyes of a gamer) prices. I hope that the crypto bubble burst soon because this is getting depressing although it doesn't seem like it will any time soon. On the bright side the miners demand for the Vega means that you can get a 580 for a sensible price! I just hope AMD have a plan to as they said get gpu's into the hands of gamers because we are what they will have to fall back on when the miners aren't buying any more and I don't know if there will be many left in the AMD camp.
 
jigger said:
It looks like crypto is moving more to CPU's.
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Crypto in general started out on CPUs then when GPU mining tool became available it moved to GPU and new CPU coins were created, the ASICs were made that took over from GPUs. This is still ongoing today and is an endless cycle I.E GPUs taking over Cryptonight (Monero, Electroneum, etc) from CPUs, ASICs taking over Scrypt (Litecoin, DOGE, etc) and X11 (DASH) from GPUs.
 
Nutella33 said:
They are good but not great and also much harder to stack compared to GPU's. GPU's wont be going anywhere.
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With the price of graphics cards right now building a system around a decent CPU makes sense. The 6 and 8 core Ryzen chips are around £150 and £220 and make 5-600 hash at 60ish watts. Spreading the amount of GPU's over more systems and leveraging CPU's makes a lot of sense.
 
Nutella33 said:
Not really with the additional cost required for more CPU's. RAM, motherboards and space for example. Worth including but definitely not the central thing imho
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Not sure. I'm thinking 5x Ryzen 1600's will make about 2500 hash for around 250watts and cost about what shops are asking for a Vega 56 card that will do around 2000 hash for 200 watts. Even a basic AM4 board offers 3-4 PCI-E slots and is less than half the cost of the 7-8 slot BTC type boards and still offers a decent amount of GPU expansion.
 
jigger said:
Not sure. I'm thinking 5x Ryzen 1600's will make about 2500 hash for around 250watts and cost about what shops are asking for a Vega 56 card that will do around 2000 hash for 200 watts. Even a basic AM4 board offers 3-4 PCI-E slots and is less than half the cost of the 7-8 slot BTC type boards and still offers a decent amount of GPU expansion.
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Nah. even just 1 x 1600 - basic psu, mobo with 3 pci e slots, 8GB of low speed DDR4 and the cheapest hard drive possible is 450 quid. 2 X 1600's and their set up would push you into Vega 64 price range.
 
Trust me I've priced it up. £2.5k for 5x Ryzen systems making 6000~ hash with the capability to double/triple that with another £2-3K's worth of GPU's.
 
jigger said:
Trust me I've priced it up. £2.5k for 5x Ryzen systems making 6000~ hash with the capability to double/triple that with another £2-3K's worth of GPU's.
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What are you using to mine to achieve 6kh/s with ryzen 1600?? I have a ryzen 1700 @ 3.8ghz and it will pull 600h/s so even multiplying that by 5 you dont get close to your 6k. My Vega 64 gets 2000h/s and cost me £425 when it was on sale (before people realised it was great at mining :P). Even at Vega prices now you would be paying around £600 maybe pushing £700 and that would get you 2kh/s so you simply buy 3 of them and you already hit that 6000h/s for £2100.

I dont see the maths adding up but if you could show me how you achieve this result then I am all ears and happy to be wrong!
 
Chaps, getting slightly back on topic here... Vega FE Air seems to be about 980 pounds back home, whereas I can find it (in stock) for $750 here in the US.

I don't plan on doing a build until Ryzen+ is available (March/April, maybe), but wondering if I should pick up a Vega now, if the prices are only going to get higher? Or are we expecting GeForce 11 series, or a Vega refresh sometime in Q2?
 
lloydcars18 said:
So Upset atm Got the LG 34UC79G and cant use the Freesync or 144hz because dont have a RX VEGA 56 want the Strix version but anything over 500 pounds for that card seems to much just hope in a Month or 2 the Supply has risen and the price fallen :(
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I suggest you to sell LG 34UC79G soon after CES 2018 event end after we see all new products unveiled. Read the news online hours ago today about new HDR10+ standard announcement I not heard of it before. Like I said both GSync, Freesync and Freesync 2 are all now obsolete as companies will push out brand new first ever 4K HDR10+ HDTV and 4K HDR10+ monitors in 2018 with HDMI 2.1 ports.

I am so exciting about 2018 have in store for HDR10+, HDMI 2.1, Aomedia AV1 codec and Nvidia Ampere. :D
 
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