RX VEGA AIB Cards Information Needed?

BriT · 21 Dec 2017 at 20:06

Least you save some money on heating bill

JediFragger · 22 Dec 2017 at 06:44

LoadsaMoney said:
Can get 1080 Ti's £130 cheaper now

The value option

ubersonic · 22 Dec 2017 at 08:36

Maybe this was Raja's final plan, price the V64 at double the price of the GTX1080, then you only have to sell half as many to make as much as Nvidia, genius XD

Jon_Snow · 23 Dec 2017 at 06:58

Reference RX Vega 64 Liquid Edition is the best Vega 64 i think.
I am glad to get one of it.

LoadsaMoney · 23 Dec 2017 at 13:45

Jon_Snow said:
Reference RX Vega 64 Liquid Edition is the best Vega 64 i think.
I am glad to get one of it.

Same, got mine in the Black Friday sale, when they dropped to £599.

AthlonXP1800 · 28 Dec 2017 at 12:25

Exclusive: Gigabyte RX Vega56, Vega64 Gaming OC teardown

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-rx-vega56-vega64-teardown,36177.html

Now for the bad news: Our sources tell us that AIB partners have received only a few chips—in the mid-four-digit range—from AMD for Vega 64 cards. This general shortage is currently preventing mass production of Gigabyte’s cards, because it’s not possible to constantly start and stop a production line, or even have it “paused” for a long period of time. Costs and the associated labor would simply be too high.

AIB partners received around 5000 Vega 64 chips to build custom Vega 64 cards so that mean PowerColor, MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS and Sapphire each received just 1000 chips. This probably explained why custom cards cost too high at up to £799.99 and AMD did the same thing with Vega 56 shipped probably around 5000 chips to AIB partners too.

Guess there wont be price cut and around 10,000 Vega 56 and 64 chips supply would last until Navi launch stayed at very high price.

Vega probably is the worst RTG launch I ever seen with so far very few Vega chips shipped than Fury chips back in 2015. Vega should be best left alone in professional market, not in consumer market just like Nvidia did HBM2 with Quadro GP100, Tesla GV100 and Titan V.

Spyhop · 28 Dec 2017 at 13:23

Surely they'll learn their lesson and Navi won't be howler.

....anyone?

Steampunk · 28 Dec 2017 at 13:58

Spyhop said:
Surely they'll learn their lesson and Navi won't be howler.

....anyone?

But when is it going to get here? Are AMD going to limp along not able to meet demand and only at a ridiculous price for the next year? Or are they going to be able to pull Navi forwards and get the dregs of the Vega release out of the way?

LoadsaMoney · 2 Jan 2018 at 15:25

BlackMaster · 4 Jan 2018 at 22:35

Wow Overclockers are now charging £899.99 for the Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA 64 8GB stand alone edition (Link)

Having a freesync monitor and an old R9 290X been waiting for prices to go down.

Deleted User 234324 · 4 Jan 2018 at 22:53

The only people buying them are miners, they don't care about the price.

silversurfer · 5 Jan 2018 at 00:51

Probably correct, if you are a long term user of ocuk maybe send them a note and if known they can reply when is best time to buy

Steampunk said:
But when is it going to get here? Are AMD going to limp along not able to meet demand and only at a ridiculous price for the next year? Or are they going to be able to pull Navi forwards and get the dregs of the Vega release out of the way?

I cant believe 2018 for Navi. I think time repeats, volta 2018 and about a year after, navi.

580 is always the sector where a company really makes money because of high revenues due to scales of economy. Thats probably where they'll be next announcing stuff, vega 24 CU on an Intel chip and hybrids perhaps

JediFragger · 5 Jan 2018 at 02:26

silversurfer said:
I cant believe 2018 for Navi. I think time repeats, volta 2018 and about a year after, navi.

Hell, AMD haven't even announced a replacement for Raja yet!!! Talk about slow moving, bloody ridiculous for a part of the company that supposedly means something to them...

2019 minimum, probably H1 too *cough* August

Sumanji · 5 Jan 2018 at 04:15

QQ, apologies if this has already been discussed/answered...

Why is the PCB for Vega so huge? I remember AMD were waxing lyrical about the small PCB size for Fury, enabled by not having DRAM on the card.

Would love a custom built liquid-cooled Vega 64 card that's the same size as the Fury X...

ubersonic · 5 Jan 2018 at 08:32

Sumanji said:
Why is the PCB for Vega so huge? I remember AMD were waxing lyrical about the small PCB size for Fury, enabled by not having DRAM on the card.

They made the reference card longer to accommodate the blower cooler, the AIO was longer because it was just the reference board with a different cooler and the AIB cards are longer because that's the direction most of the AIB manufacturers chose to go in.

They did show off a Vega Nano before launch that would have used a smaller PCB setup without the dead space, but nothing appears to have come of that.

The custom XFX card appears to use the shorter PCB.

Steampunk · 5 Jan 2018 at 10:32

ubersonic said:
They made the reference card longer to accommodate the blower cooler, the AIO was longer because it was just the reference board with a different cooler and the AIB cards are longer because that's the direction most of the AIB manufacturers chose to go in.

They did show off a Vega Nano before launch that would have used a smaller PCB setup without the dead space, but nothing appears to have come of that.

The custom XFX card appears to use the shorter PCB.

There's probably not enough chips around to do a smaller, cheaper Nano. Why waste chips on addressing a cheaper market segment when you can't make enough product that sells at £900 a pop?

bigburci · 5 Jan 2018 at 12:11

BTW what happening with Vega prices? I just wanted to buy a 64 but saw the price skyrocketed to £900 which is became too high, for me at least. lol

Steampunk · 5 Jan 2018 at 12:14

bigburci said:
BTW what happening with Vega prices? I just wanted to buy a 64 but saw the price skyrocketed to £900 which is became too high, for me at least. lol

Not enough supply to meet demand, and miners who will pay anything, so prices are going up and up.

LoadsaMoney · 5 Jan 2018 at 14:36

bigburci said:
BTW what happening with Vega prices? I just wanted to buy a 64 but saw the price skyrocketed to £900 which is became too high, for me at least. lol

**** ME!!! :eek:

The 56s as well, now £650-£690!!! :eek:

so glad i jumped on the Black Friday Liquid Cooled 64 for only £599 deal.

Gibbo · 5 Jan 2018 at 14:57

LoadsaMoney said:
**** ME!!!

The 56s as well, now £650-£690!!!

so glad i jumped on the Black Friday Liquid Cooled 64 for only £599 deal.

I made it very clear at Black Friday when I did the VEGA bargains that no one in the UK could compete with us and that you would never see VEGA so cheap again and as such is why I urged you all to buy, we knew this was coming and we took the decision to give the gamers a chance to grab one. I could have sat on all those hundreds of cards and sold them for nearly double now, but it was done as a final chance for gamers to grab one.

You won't see cheap graphics cards now for a long time, AMD prices have gone up, AIB's have put up prices massively and us as a re-seller are not giving it away either.

All NVIDIA cards have being increased in price as well 1050 and above which have or are coming into effect.

Anyone who grabbed one of those VEGA's I did on deal could now sell for more very easily.