Ryzen 1700x upgrade - real life benefit?

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Hi all!

Quick question if I may. My 'grunt PC' that I use for work, video, photos, games and so on is running on a Ryzen 1700x that you all recommended to me years ago.

It's all running fine and not laggy, I'm just wondering how far CPUs have come in the last 5-6 years.

Can anyone give me a sense of how much faster tasks like photoshop, video editing and so on would be with a brand new processor? (say £500-800 CPU range?)

A lot of the sites I've looked at seem to give generic 'ratings' which don't really mean anything - what I'd be keen to understand is where a render takes 1 min, would it now take 50 secs or 5 secs!

Just trying to get a sense of whether a modern CPU would be 20% faster or 200% in most tasks! (and thus is it worth thinking about upgrades!)
 
katie279 said:
what I'd be keen to understand is where a render takes 1 min, would it now take 50 secs or 5 secs!
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In GN's video here

Rendering their logo (blender) took: 29.4 minutes on a 1700, 25.3 on a 2700 and 15.9 with a 5800X.

Chromium compile took: 155 minutes with 1700 and 87 minutes with 5800X
 
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katie279 said:
Ah that's brilliant! So basically a 2700 is not really worth it, but 5800x looks like I could half a lot of the rendering/processing time....!

Thank you so much, very helpful!
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If you want to stretch the life of your AM4 system, look for a cheap 5900X or 5950X if doing heavy lifting. Seen a couple of used 5900X's go for ~£200.
 
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katie279 said:
You're amazing! Spot on!

So what's the difference in real terms between a 5800x, 5900x and a 5950X.

Definitely feels like an easy upgrade...?
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Mainly the increase in core count as you go up through the range for highly threaded applications/tasks will mean a significant reduction in time taken to complete, it will also leave the system more resources for less strenuous tasks.

It is an easy upgrade, I'd say the 5900x is the sweetspot, then the 5700x (lower tdp 5800x). Just make sure you have a decent cooler for it. :)
 
I read this thread and thought yeah a 5800x will give you a massive upgrade. I had not even considered the 5900x and 5950x that for professional tasks will give another huge upgrade. When compared to an 8 core 1700x then in general the 5800x is 100% faster , 5900x 150% faster , 5950x 200% faster for professional tasks.

You may want to instal hwmonitor and see how much power your cpu is pulling when running a full core load. The X370/B350 mobos did not have as beefy heatsinks as the later X570/B550 mobos and for reference a 5800x draws approx 120W ( 5700x is almost same chip with lower power settings and is a better option if buying new) , 5900x 180W and 5950x 200W (the best cores were reserved for the 16 core part so could run with less power). You will need a mobo with sufficient vrms and cooling on them to run cpus with higher power draw so is good to know what it has so far been handling. You may also need better cooler as well so Thermalright Peerless assassin is a good option for £45 , you will need to search for it.
 
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mickyflinn said:
How did you know what board she has ?
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It's called stalking.
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Haz123 said:
I read this thread and thought yeah a 5800x will give you a massive upgrade. I had not even considered the 5900x and 5950x that for professional tasks will give another huge upgrade. When compared to an 8 core 1700x then in general the 5800x is 100% faster , 5900x 150% faster , 5950x 200% faster for professional tasks.

You may want to instal hwmonitor and see how much power your cpu is pulling when running a full core load. The X370/B350 mobos did not have as beefy heatsinks as the later X570/B550 mobos and for reference a 5800x draws approx 120W ( 5700x is almost same chip with lower power settings and is a better option if buying new) , 5900x 180x and 5950x 200w (the best cores were reserved for the 16 core part so could run with less power). You will need a mobo with sufficient vrms and cooling on them to run cpus with higher power draw so is good to know what it has so far been handling. You may also need better cooler as well so Thermalright Peerless assassin is a good option for £45 , you will need to search for it.
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Cool - great stats, thanks for this! I'll check the 5900x and 5990x and compare price differences - that sounds like an easy booster!

Definitely can upgrade the cooler, forget what I installed (@Journey will probably know! :D) but definitely wasn't stock.

Regarding power draw, think I've got a Corsair hx850i, so would 'think' that should be plenty?
 
katie279 said:
Regarding power draw, think I've got a Corsair hx850i, so would 'think' that should be plenty?
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Your psu will be fine , that is not the point I was trying to make. With the cpu drawing more power it is not just the psu that has to supply it , those Watts have to pass through the VRMs and they need to be upto the task. Early X370/B350 mobos were not as well made as later X570/B550 so it is something that is a consideration, can your vrms handle the increased power useage or will they throttle the cpu when they overheat. I just looked at the Gigabyte website and that mobo only has limited heatsinks , I would say a 5700x is the most sensible upgrade and do not be tempted by the higher core count 5900x/5950x, that mobo was not designed to handle that high a cpu power draw imho.
 
Haz123 said:
Your psu will be fine , that is not the point I was trying to make. With the cpu drawing more power it is not just the psu that has to supply it , those Watts have to pass through the VRMs and they need to be upto the task. Early X370/B350 mobos were not as well made as later X570/B550 so it is something that is a consideration, can your vrms handle the increased power useage or will they throttle the cpu when they overheat. I just looked at the Gigabyte website and that mobo only has limited heatsinks , I would say a 5700x is the most sensible upgrade and do not be tempted by the higher core count 5900x/5950x, that mobo was not designed to handle that high a cpu power draw imho.
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Ah right - interesting, so what would be the effect, would it just not work even though the MB was rated for it?
 
katie279 said:
Cool - great stats, thanks for this! I'll check the 5900x and 5990x and compare price differences - that sounds like an easy booster!
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If you're comparing between the 5000 cpus then it is much easier to find benchmarks than ones that include way back to the 1700/2700. This review @ TPU includes all except the 5950X.
 
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