Ryzen 1700x upgrade - real life benefit?

if his only theoretical expense is CPU which will keep system almost in pair with current AM5 rigs .. ?
No it won't. I explained how i'm thinking. I hate small upgrades once I build the system. AM5 vs AM4 is completely different. If you go with AM5 you are future proof. You can use your old hard drives, nvmes and Graphic card with AM5 but not Mobo, CPU, RAM or PSU.
 
No it won't. I explained how i'm thinking. I hate small upgrades once I build the system. AM5 vs AM4 is completely different. If you go with AM5 you are future proof. You can use your old hard drives, nvmes and Graphic card with AM5 but not Mobo, CPU, RAM or PSU.

5700X is under £180 delivered right now and will be a big upgrade on a 1700X, you can barely buy an AM5 board for £180.

A 7600 non-X would perform similar to the 5700X in rendering, according to TPU, but that's £200+ and the board and the memory.
 
5700X is under £180 delivered right now and will be a big upgrade on a 1700X, you can barely buy an AM5 board for £180.

A 7600 non-X would perform similar to the 5700X in rendering, according to TPU, but that's £200+ and the board and the memory.
new cooler? to keep up with AMDs requirements
 
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No it won't. I explained how i'm thinking. I hate small upgrades once I build the system. AM5 vs AM4 is completely different. If you go with AM5 you are future proof. You can use your old hard drives, nvmes and Graphic card with AM5 but not Mobo, CPU, RAM or PSU.

You're rattling on about future proofing while totally ignoring that the initial investment in AM4 was a form of future proofing, being able to drop in a 5700X from a 1700X is a big improvement and one of the greatest benefits of having invested in the platform.

If going by current trends and the logic you're employing, by the time the OP went to upgrade again AM6 would be out and you'd be telling them to move to that instead of just investing in a CPU upgrade. AMD's 5XX0 series chips are still extremely competitive and can be had at excellent prices, and given some of the current issues on AM5 I'd be more inclined to wait until the platform is more mature before moving to it unless absolutely necessary.
 
Ooh I never realised that could happen with bios upgrades, seems silly, but I'll wait as you say!!

On your board you are fine the 1700x is supported on all versions, but some of the more obscure and less used parts were removed from the microcode to save space and allow new CPU support to be added. Board manufacturers didn't think AMD were going to do well with AM4 so using tiny incy wincy BIOS chips saved them a few dollars per board. They were wrong, obviously. :D
 
katie279

What's your PSU? I still think it is a no-brainer to not go for 16c32t 5950 given only 10-20W of power usage difference
 
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katie279

What's your PSU? I still think it is a no-brainer to not go for 16c32t 5950 given only 10-20W of power usage difference
Power usage difference between a 5700x and 5950x is much higher than 10-20w.

5700x-power-consumption.png
 
suggested before 5800x is 140W - and also 5950 is double the cores

if you mean 65w 5700x which is not on the list probably small undervolt of 5950 will give better results while still being 16c over 8c


what written just above for those interested - otherwise i feel there is some lobby of forcing worse over better around here for some reason
 
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while suggested before 5800x is 140W - and also 5950 is double the cores

if you mean 65w 5700x which is not on the list probably small undervolt of 5750 will give similar results while still being 16c over 8c


what written just above for those interested - otherwise i feel there is some lobby of forcing worse over better around here for some reason
That's why nobody recommended the 5800x and OP decided on a 5700x. 5950x is probably not worth it at the current price difference given that not all workloads will fully utilize the extra cores and they may need a new cooler.
 
5950x is 142w in that chart not 105w.
TDP-->65W = ~90W, 105W = ~140W of power.
I would get the best CPU (5950X) as it’s the last upgrade available for AM4. Its also worth noting that the last CPU for a platform generally hold its value better than any of the others.
 
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PPT is the actual power consumption limit, it's TDP x 1.35. Not sure why they advertise a lower TDP number.
 
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