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Ryzen "2" ?

I suppose we will know over the next few weeks what is more typical of these Ryzen chips when the early adopters, gotta love those intrepid pioneers, have had time to evaluate it better.

Coupled with the X470 boards it might take the lumps and bumps out of the issues noted in the couple of posts above, and might even surprise me a little at what it can deliver.

We shall see.
 
zola25 said:
^ Unfortunately my experience with the Ryzen 1 lottery was the same as Loque's. I had two examples of the 1700X that could just about do 3.7GHz, but only if the RAM was at run at 2666. Running the RAM at 3000 (3200 was unreachable) either required the CPU to be at stock or to use absolutely insane voltages, and yes the memory was B-die. Eventually I had to run the whole lot at stock as even though every stability test would pass, games would constantly crash and booting was a lottery with any form of overclock applied.

I'd imagine many of these kinds of issues will have been ironed out with Ryzen 2, particularly with the IMC.
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I have similar niggles, will be changing in the hope that the new gen resolves them.
 
Loque said:
There definitely was a silicon lottery with Ryzen 1. I got a particularly bad chip. It wouldn't clock any higher than 3.7 and I had to reset my system up to 30 times every morning to get it to boot because of the weak memory controller. In fact, that's the main reason I'm upgrading to the 2700X. So i don't have to spend 15 minutes trying to get my system to boot every morning.
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zola25 said:
^ Unfortunately my experience with the Ryzen 1 lottery was the same as Loque's. I had two examples of the 1700X that could just about do 3.7GHz, but only if the RAM was at run at 2666. Running the RAM at 3000 (3200 was unreachable) either required the CPU to be at stock or to use absolutely insane voltages, and yes the memory was B-die. Eventually I had to run the whole lot at stock as even though every stability test would pass, games would constantly crash and booting was a lottery with any form of overclock applied.

I'd imagine many of these kinds of issues will have been ironed out with Ryzen 2, particularly with the IMC.
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Maybe the good chips became 1800X initially? As you see there is no 2800X now.
My 1800X was working with just the boost to 4.2 on all cores and 3600Mhz ram which the CH4 automatically overclocked to C14.
Btw different mobo BIOS, were resulting to less boost or less (and different) cores boosting.
 
I'm still completely baffled by the fact it's officially up for pre order, the product is in stock but reviews are under NDA still and the product can't be shipped.

Never seen a launch like this.
 
Martini1991 said:
I'm still completely baffled by the fact it's officially up for pre order, the product is in stock but reviews are under NDA still and the product can't be shipped.

Never seen a launch like this.
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It happens all the time but yeah this NDA thing for reviews is pathetic. Every time I see something like this, it just makes me wonder if the product is not good, as they don't want to release data earlier.
 
If it happens all the time then mind giving ant examples?
Stock before reviews is normal (although away from the public eye) , being able to pre order is not. Being able to pre order an in stock item before reviews is even more weird.

The only time I've seen pre order before reviews were the 290x and they had no price.

Reviews and being able to buy the in stock item on the same day is normal.

Or you get paper launch with pre order of something not in stock.
 
Martini1991 said:
If it happens all the time then mind giving ant examples?
Stock before reviews is normal (although away from the public eye) , being able to pre order is not. Being able to pre order an in stock item before reviews is even more weird.

The only time I've seen pre order before reviews were the 290x and they had no price.

Reviews and being able to buy the in stock item on the same day is normal.

Or you get paper launch with pre order of something not in stock.
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Even 1080ti was available for preorders on the 3 of March but all the reviews were available on the 9th, plenty of more, just do't want to waste time to search:P
 
haszek said:
Even 1080ti was available for preorders on the 3 of March but all the reviews were available on the 9th, plenty of more, just do't want to waste time to search:p
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Link to the pre order evidence? (Officially allowed like this current one, and not just someone listing something early to generate hype, as that's not the same thing)

I'm happy to concede there may have been one or two instances of a pre order before review (Like I say, I know of the 290X, but that had no price/performance information and that move was hammered) although never seen it with stock. It's an arbitrary thing.
 
Martini1991 said:
Link to the pre order evidence? (Officially allowed like this current one, and not just someone listing something early to generate hype, as that's not the same thing)
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Google it. Not hard.

anandtech and all the other majors had reviews on 9th March
Nvidia had pre-orders on 3rd March accordingly
 
Curlyriff said:
Google it. Not hard.

anandtech and all the other majors had reviews on 9th March
Nvidia had pre-orders on 3rd March accordingly
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Nvidia did? So, that's a bit different because it's not through E-tailers, it's through Nvidia. Again, that would have been unheard of at the time.

Go through the last 10 CPU launches and tell me where we've had pre orders before reviews with stock ready to buy (But not shipping).
 
I'm not even that bothered about getting a good 4.2/4.3 clocking chip. I just want one that will let me run my memory at 3600mhz and boot first time, every time. If I can get that, I'll be happy.
 
haszek said:
Even 1080ti was available for preorders on the 3 of March but all the reviews were available on the 9th, plenty of more, just do't want to waste time to search:p
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Yeah. I pre-ordered a 1080ti before reviews hit. Same with my Threadripper cpu and X399 mobo.
 
amigafan2003 said:
Yeah. I pre-ordered a 1080ti before reviews hit. Same with my Threadripper cpu and X399 mobo.
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So it's just AMD breaking convention then?

I've bought a bunch of CPU's on launch, AMD and Intel.
Reviews and purchase are all usually the same day. It should never be purchase before review.

But like I say, go through 10 CPU launches. If it's only happened on one then it's far and away from "Happens all the time"

AMD's last launches.

Piledriver (No purchase before reviews)
Bulldozer (No purchase before reviews)
Thuban (No purchase before reviews)
Deneb (No purchase before reviews)

Intel

Coffeelake (No purchase before reviews)
Kaby (No purchase before reviews)
Skylake (No purchase before reviews)
Haswell (No purchase before reviews)
Ivybridge (No purchase before reviews)

If any of those 9 are incorrect, let me know. But if they're not, then again, it doesn't "Happen all the time"
 
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