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Ryzen "2" ?

Guys overclockers are a tiny minority, heck i am involved in the purchase of between 1200-1400 new base units per year for our refresh and not a single one is overclocked - most are not even capable even with the higher end K series chips.
Yes we all love to add a few hundred Mhz here, i have a 5820k doing overtime with a big water cooler but i am under no illusions i am in the very very small minority.

Its rather refreshing to see a chip that can actually do better under its own control than forcing an overclock... well unless you want to get silly cooling out - wonder what xfr would think of LN2.
 
Hi all I'm back to report on initial testing of the 2700x on a asus crosshair vii hero x470, first things first i'm a little underwhelmed with quad channel ram support i have a 3600mhz corsair dominator kit 16gb and no matter what i did the max the kit would run at was 3000mhz, i understand that the 2700x is designed for dual channel support, but still a little disappointed.
however removing 2 of the above sticks did increase the speed of the kit to a max stable 3466mhz which is more like it, i did boot in at 3600mhz but soon bsod before opening up windows so left it at 3466mhz for testing, on that front i saw no increase from 3000 to 3466mhz, so in the end i dropped back to 3000mhz and called it a day.
i then started to see how far the chip would overclock and at the moment i'm at 4.1ghz (1.419v in windows) on all 8 cores with a max temp of 74 degrees for the cpu (using the bundled cooler), i have seen that mosfett temps are around the 77-80 degree region which is perfectly fine, to get all the above working i had to update the motherboards bios from 0207, to the latest release which is 0509 bit of a pain but overall fairly happy with it
 
wookiee87 said:
Hi all I'm back to report on initial testing of the 2700x on a asus crosshair vii hero x470, first things first i'm a little underwhelmed with quad channel ram support i have a 3600mhz corsair dominator kit 16gb and no matter what i did the max the kit would run at was 3000mhz, i understand that the 2700x is designed for dual channel support, but still a little disappointed.
however removing 2 of the above sticks did increase the speed of the kit to a max stable 3466mhz which is more like it, i did boot in at 3600mhz but soon bsod before opening up windows so left it at 3466mhz for testing, on that front i saw no increase from 3000 to 3466mhz, so in the end i dropped back to 3000mhz and called it a day.
i then started to see how far the chip would overclock and at the moment i'm at 4.1ghz (1.419v in windows) on all 8 cores with a max temp of 74 degrees for the cpu (using the bundled cooler), i have seen that mosfett temps are around the 77-80 degree region which is perfectly fine, to get all the above working i had to update the motherboards bios from 0207, to the latest release which is 0509 bit of a pain but overall fairly happy with it
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It should do more at stock with good air flow.
 
Chewie said:
I can't wait however for a new Taichi bios, the current 4.60 version (which is mandatory for the 2700x) is horrible. I have cold boot and boot reset problems since I'm running it.

And it's not tied to the 2700X, I did the upgrade yesterday while still running with the 1700X and I got the exact symptoms. Symptoms which I did not have while I was running the 4.40 bios...come on Asrock :rolleyes:
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Have you found out how & reported it to Asrock?

It's worth doing if not.
 
i haven't got good airflow atm I've got it besides me on a makeshift test bed for testing the plan is to install it on a custom 360 and 240mm waterloop, fingers crossed it will go further, on that front what would you recommend a safe 24/7 voltage say at 4.3ghz if i can get it?
 
Anandtech reviewers may be right
Here's what happens when you follow a good guide in the bios
and activate the tasty options
I also have the video if you want i insert it on youtube
 
Just ordered a 2700x to replace my 1600 on a ch6. Seen enough to show it works well on a X370 board.

Will just leave it at stock and try to get my 8 pack 3600 ram as high as I can.
 
nashathedog said:
Have you found out how & reported it to Asrock?

It's worth doing if not.
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I haven't found out what is causing these problems no but I did write a post about it in the OC UK "Asrock Feedback Thread".

One thing I've also discovered (from another forum) is that on the Taichi the XFR 2.0 option is disabled by default. I have enabled it but it then asks for PDT/TDC/EDC limit values which I have left as is (0). As a result I'm not sure the option is actually doing anything, haven't really noticed a difference so far.

I very much hope that Asrock will sort out their next x370 Taichi bios :rolleyes:
 
chrcoluk said:
This is why I said by all means have the stock results there as well, The stock result been what every single chip should be able to perform at, the overclocked result been what the reviewers chip can perform at. Personally I would use 4.8 as the number as I consider that a reasonable 24/7 clock that every 8600 and 8700 can achieve but yes its not guaranteed.

Why would I be butthurt, didnt you read I said I would have no issue if we seen a 4.2 ryzen 2 outperform a intel 4.8?

I actually wanted to see that, then it makes intel improve their own products. e.g. I have managed to get a 6 core intel chip at mainstream prices all because AMD brought out a solid ryzen product last yeat, good competition is something I like to see.
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Just for you, here's a review that uses an oc'd 8700k for comparison purposes.

m.hardocp.com/article/2018/04/19/amd_2nd_gen_ryzen_2_2700x_zen_cpu_review/6
 
amigafan2003 said:
Just for you, here's a review that uses an oc'd 8700k for comparison purposes.

m.hardocp.com/article/2018/04/19/amd_2nd_gen_ryzen_2_2700x_zen_cpu_review/6
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Not quite. :p

"What Happened to the 8700K?

I would be remiss if I did not tell you why the 8700K overclocked benchmarks "disappeared" in middle of our review. Long story short, I broke it by overclocking it. After spending a day trying to figure out what component in the system was at fault, it came down to the CPU. Even at stock clocks and excellent cooling, it will BSOD sitting in Windows at the desktop. This is the first Intel CPU I have seen be damaged by overclocking in probably a decade. My $300 CPU is now trash and the warranty is gone as well, as I delidded it before I realized that it would BSOD at stock clocks. Do I feel a keychain giveaway coming on?"
 
wookiee87 said:
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however removing 2 of the above sticks did increase the speed of the kit to a max stable 3466mhz which is more like it, i did boot in at 3600mhz but soon bsod before opening up windows so left it at 3466mhz for testing, on that front i saw no increase from 3000 to 3466mhz, so in the end i dropped back to 3000mhz and called it a day.....
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The Gamers Nexus review explained whats happening here. Halfway down the first page under the Memory Overclocking section: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrevie...x-review-game-streaming-cpu-benchmarks-memory
Basically your motherboard is controlling a lot of the subtimings for you. This is great for most users who want an easy setup with good performance. If you want go to the highest memory performance you have to put in the effort to tune all the subtimings too.
 
chroniclard said:
Not quite. :p

"What Happened to the 8700K?

I would be remiss if I did not tell you why the 8700K overclocked benchmarks "disappeared" in middle of our review. Long story short, I broke it by overclocking it. After spending a day trying to figure out what component in the system was at fault, it came down to the CPU. Even at stock clocks and excellent cooling, it will BSOD sitting in Windows at the desktop. This is the first Intel CPU I have seen be damaged by overclocking in probably a decade. My $300 CPU is now trash and the warranty is gone as well, as I delidded it before I realized that it would BSOD at stock clocks. Do I feel a keychain giveaway coming on?"
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Way to spoil the surprise dude! ;-)

Now remind me why most reviewers don't include oc'd comparison cpus?
 
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