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opethdisciple said:
But it all started as soon as I put in this 8 Pack ram.

I had a 1700 and Corsair ram before this since launch. And I didn't have any of these issues. I put in the 8 Pack ram as I wanted 3200MHz on the ram and since then (1 month so far) I simply have not found stability.

I've even upgraded to a 2700x in the mean time and the story continues.

Either I have faulty ram or the ram isn't faulty nor is the mobo it's just that 3200MHz is a too much for the mobo to run the ram 24/7 stable.

It's really horrible when you have an unstable pc. Every second anticipating/expecting the PC to freeze saps the joy out of using it.

Currently the ram is stable running HCI. Only thing I changed last night after my freezing was the power profile to high performance.

If it doesn't make a difference :

1. I run it lower than 3200MHz and see if stable. But then what was the point in selling my corsair (3066MHz) and buying the 8 pack stuff if it cant run at 3200MHz.
2. Return ram as not fit for purpose. (bin only)
3. Upgrade to a CH7. This might not even solve the issue. And just throwing money down the drain.
4. Try this c6 thing.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you say you had one random reboot with your old RAM too? I think if the RAM were the issue it would fail stability tests as they are supposed to put the system under a lot more strain than normal and bad RAM or an unstable IMC would give out errors whereas a faulty motherboard is different in my experience as it doesn't perform any calculations directly and can fail in intermediate or low load states.

Can't you RMA the board instead and get help from OCUK or buy a really cheap B350 as a test or buy the CH7 and resell or return if it doesn't solve the problem?

The C6 thing is merely a workaround to bypass the faulty power delivery on the motherboard, or at least it was in my case. Any working board and modern PSU should handle C6 easily, particularly if you are not overclocking.

I very much empathise with you, it was very stressful in my case too and I only upgraded to a new PC because my old PC had started failing. However, I hope I can save you some time as I think the motherboard is the most likely culprit. I assume you've tested PSU voltages as if it were that it would probably fall over in stress tests.
 
ltron said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you say you had one random reboot with your old RAM too? I think if the RAM were the issue it would fail stability tests as they are supposed to put the system under a lot more strain than normal and bad RAM or an unstable IMC would give out errors whereas a faulty motherboard is different in my experience as it doesn't perform any calculations directly and can fail in intermediate or low load states.

Can't you RMA the board instead or buy a really cheap B350 as a test or buy the CH7 and resell or return if it doesn't solve the problem?

The C6 thing is merely a workaround to bypass the faulty power delivery on the motherboard, or at least it was in my case. Any working board and modern PSU should handle C6 easily, particularly if you are not overclocking.
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My PSU is old. 2012 I think. Maybe older.

And yes. I did have one random reboot of the PC during a game. The CPU and ram where both overclocked at the time.

But that was once in about 6 months.
 
BongoHunter said:
It took a bit of finding, but your PSU is compatible according to this list: http://www.thermaltake.com/content.aspx?id=3751

Have you monitored PSU voltages?
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Nope. That would be from HWMonitor?

The symptoms I am seeing is I'm playing away and suddenly the game will freeze. Windows is fine tho. I can terminate the game through task manager.

It also crashes to desktop with 'this game has stopped working messages' sometimes.

Seriously believe me when I say this all started when I introduced this 8 pack ram.

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It could be that the PSU is not providing the system with a clean power supply any more.
 
I'm gonna test out a 2600X on an A320 and X370 board. Any guesses at the difference in performance?

I'm gonna guess none at stock (you wouldn't really overclock the 2600X anyway).
 
muon said:
I'm gonna test out a 2600X on an A320 and X370 board. Any guesses at the difference in performance?

I'm gonna guess none at stock (you wouldn't really overclock the 2600X anyway).
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At stock I would not expect a difference at all - what memory are you going to use and what boards out of interest?
 
BongoHunter said:
At stock I would not expect a difference at all - what memory are you going to use and what boards out of interest?
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Both Asrock, A350M Pro4 and X370 Gaming ITX.

The 2600X/2700X don't overclock much so I can't see any reason to spend upto £60-£100 extra on an X470 board (or even the £30 extra for an X370).

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Correction A320M Pro4. Not the 350M.
 
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muon said:
Both Asrock, A350M Pro4 and X370 Gaming ITX.

The 2600X/2700X don't overclock much so I can't see any reason to spend upto £60-£100 extra on an X470 board (or even the £30 extra for an X370).
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But that's partly what the x470 gives you unless I am mistaken due to thermal limitations.

For example on my Prime Pro x370 I don't have the option of Core Performance Boost.

I know the CH7 has it and 'maybe' they have backported to the CH6.

Core Performance Boost on Level 2 which is within AMD specifications will net you an extra 200MHz across all cores.

I'm getting 4GHz on my x370. I'm either temp limited or a CH7 with Core Performance Boost set to level 2 would get me 4.2GHz across all cores.

A nice boost for those with the more premium mobo.
 
Will be interesting to see if the power put out by the A320 can let you hit max boost, I agree the x470 probably not worth it, the upcoming 490 will be a better bet I think
 
But thats just overclocking (PBO). Can do that on B350/X370 boards. Admittedly you'd have to play with pstates to get the exact same thing, so a bit more difficult.
 
After some fiddling I managed to get timings tighter @ 3366, think thats about the limit of this ram(at least with my knowledge!). :)

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Let me ask a yes or no question.

It's now almost 4 weeks of fiddling with this 8 Pack ram and I am still not sure I have it stable.

The fact the ram isn't stable using the out of the box DOCP profile with no additional tweaks and everything else stock in the bios, would you RMA the ram?

That's pretty much why I bought it. Plug and play ease of mind.
 
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opethdisciple said:
Let me ask a yes or no question.

It's now almost 4 weeks of fiddling with this 8 Pack ram and I am still not sure I have it stable.

The fact the ram isn't stable using the out of the box DOCP profile with no additional tweaks and everything else stock in the bios, would you RMA the ram?

That's pretty much why I bought it. Plug and play ease of mind.
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I would, If it's not capable of running at it's stock configuration it's not fit for purpose. Have you anywhere else you can test it to see if it is the ram? I ask as my 8pack ram is unable to run at stock with the 2700x but it did with the 1600x.
 
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