Ryzen "2" ?

[Martini1991]

What's PE?

My Ryzen 2700 with X370 Pro has been pretty meh, I wish I'd just left the 1700 in. My 2700 can't even do 4GHZ stable.

 

[opethdisciple]

What's PE?

My Ryzen 2700 with X370 Pro has been pretty meh, I wish I'd just left the 1700 in. My 2700 can't even do 4GHZ stable.

Performance Enhancer. It's a option in the bios, but I think only the premium mobos have it.

From what I see will push the CPU up by 200MHz. But that could be temp dependant.

 

[chroniclard]

After finding out limits of my CPU and memory started playing around with PE3 overclock and thats what i got stable. All cores 4.256 and XFR boost 4.462. Gives 185-186 ST score in CB15

What voltage settings are you using for PE3, also LLC etc?

 

[eddiew]

AMD said 1.45 is too much

That one is over 1.5 so I dunno where you heard it was ok from.

XFR spikes voltage to 1.5 and above at stock settings. Some users even reported 1.6 (mine caps at 1.55). There were big debates on reddit about it last year, AMD's response was that yes it happens, but the spikes are fractions of a second and what you should pay attention to is averages. If setting all-core overclocks (which disable XFR) then do not exceed 1.4 indeed.

I'm a little iffy on it myself, tbqh, but that was my takeaway from it all at the time. Whether it will be the same line in another 1-2 years I can't comment on. They may turn out to be short lived :/

I haven't read into Ryzen 2's PBO because I don't have a Ryzen 2 and don't plan to get one, but the screenshot previous looks gentler on voltages than my 1600X is

 

[SiDeards73]

Once we start seeing newer game engines that are correctly designed to harness both Intel and AMD designs, then the difference between chips will narrow even further. As it stands now, most games we play are on engines designed and compiled for Intel CPU's as quite frankly AMD wasnt even at the party when they were made.

AMD was *Supposed* to be working with Bethesda to optomise their engines, havent seen evidence of that yet.

 

[Zeed]

Performance Enhancer is ASUS CROSSHAIR VII EXCLUSIVE. Its been developed by The Stilt same as overclock memory profiles for Samsung B die.
That's what Asus that Gigabyte Asrock and ****** MSI does not have

 

[Zeed]

What voltage settings are you using for PE3, also LLC etc?

LLC4 with offset of +0.380 BCLK 102.6 That gives me same 1.381 volts on all cores on IBT load that i have for simple 4250x8 overclock.

This passes IBT all ebnchmarks Realbench and 3dmark stress tests
Btw. My system is on 4th place on Realbench leaderboard with AMD and single card
https://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbe...eq=all&VGA=all&gpu=1&Core=all&view=1&version=

 

[chroniclard]

Sweet.

 

[chrcoluk]

My question is to those who jumped a single gen.

Do you feel was worth it as an upgrade?

 

[Martini1991]

My question is to those who jumped a single gen.

Do you feel was worth it as an upgrade?

I went from a 1700 to a 2700 and ultimately think it was a waste of money.

It's the first time I've done a single step generation before and it's probably the last.

 

[chroniclard]

My question is to those who jumped a single gen.

Do you feel was worth it as an upgrade?

I would class it as "fairly worthwhile", its not a big jump but its a jump all the same.

Its not a particularly expensive upgrade.

 

[perry081064]

I went from a 1600 to 2700X so worth it for the extra cores/threads.
1600 was OC to 3.8 , whereas the 2700X is at stock .....atm

 

[HeX]

My question is to those who jumped a single gen.

Do you feel was worth it as an upgrade?

It's by no means a huge leap, I mainly changed because it was a fairly cheap upgrade due to the socket compatibility. If i'd had to change mobo as well and rebuild the whole system i'd probably not have bothered.

Anyone on Zen shouldn't feel any pressure to upgrade to Zen+, but anyone buying now should certainly go for Zen+ as XFR2 is brilliant.

 

[HeX]

Performance Enhancer is ASUS CROSSHAIR VII EXCLUSIVE. Its been developed by The Stilt same as overclock memory profiles for Samsung B die.
That's what Asus that Gigabyte Asrock and ****** MSI does not have

PE is just PBO with custom values. Any board with PBO can just copy the values ASUS use in PE, just like any mobo using B-Die can use Stilts mem timings.

 

[DragonQ]

I went from a 1700 to a 2700 and ultimately think it was a waste of money.

It's the first time I've done a single step generation before and it's probably the last.

Even if you sold the 1700 I imagine the outlay for such an upgrade to be ~£100, which is clearly not worth a few hundred MHz.

 

[opethdisciple]

PE is just PBO with custom values. Any board with PBO can just copy the values ASUS use in PE, just like any mobo using B-Die can use Stilts mem timings.

Really? I enable PBO, but there was nowhere to stick any values. It's just on or off.

 

[Martini1991]

Even if you sold the 1700 I imagine the outlay for such an upgrade to be ~£100, which is clearly not worth a few hundred MHz.

It was 60 pound outlay.
I'd have considered a few hundred MHZ worth it, but I didn't get that. I got 100MHZ.

Not worth it from a Ryzen, but certainly worth it from anything else that isn't Coffeelake.

 

[prjwebb]

People bash intel for the constant chipset and/or socket changes, but at least you don't end up getting baited into buying the same cpu twice!

 

[Zeed]

PE is just PBO with custom values. Any board with PBO can just copy the values ASUS use in PE, just like any mobo using B-Die can use Stilts mem timings.

But they dont. And rhats why im kinda ****** off on C7H reviews as those 2 major features ware never mentioned...

 

[Zeed]

If it goes for zen to zen+ upgrade. Totally NOT WORTH IT. Only done it cause got free motherboard from Asus. Sold my 1700x with c6h for 250 quid yesterday and since I paid almost 400 quid for binned 2700x it was 150 quid upgrade.

For 150 i got 200mhz so almost 1quid/mhz bwst value ever buhahaha

Even better i gained almost 150cb points 1 point/pound hahaha