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Ryzen "2" ?

orbitalwalsh said:
finally got around to installing 8 pack 4000hz kit and ryzen 2700 into Ultra board ... shame its not inside the case pmsl.
came back to see my daughter preferred her breakfast on the floor rather then eating it :(
seems few others with kit and board got 4000hz kit running 3200hz CL16 - see if can nudge that higher on a 'budget' board
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I'm not knocking the OcUK own brand (effectively) ram but... the only folks I see complaining about memory in this thread are running the 8pack stuff.
I dropped galax HOF (was cheaper than anything when I bought it) 3200 CL14 into a X470 Asus Prime (2700x), set DOCP and it booted perfectly, first time. Not had to look at it since.
I get 4.4 ghz on 1-2 cores (standard XFR2) and I've noticed a grand total of zero issues with it.
 
The thubans came out well after the original i7 when core 2 was well and truly EOL. Invalid comparison. Phenom ii was "fine" but it was still behind the Intel of the time

When the choice when AMD or Intel when core 2 Was around it was the Intel that were better.

And if we're going to actual be factual about this. In 2008 when you bought your "crap" Core 2 Quad the AMD of the time were the Phenoms, not the II's. Then you'd be forgetting that the original II's didn't launch with the hex cores, so we've still got around another 2 years from 2008 to the launch of Thuban in 2010, which obviously is after the original i7's and even the mainstream i5/i7.
 
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Mercutio said:
I'm not knocking the OcUK own brand (effectively) ram but... the only folks I see complaining about memory in this thread are running the 8pack stuff.
I dropped galax HOF (was cheaper than anything when I bought it) 3200 CL14 into a X470 Asus Prime (2700x), set DOCP and it booted perfectly, first time. Not had to look at it since.
I get 4.4 ghz on 1-2 cores (standard XFR2) and I've noticed a grand total of zero issues with it.
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Cause people dont use darn Memory calculator for ryzen to get timings right...
 
I bought Gskill Ripjaws V for my x370 1700 build, then thought I had made a mistake as I could not get the rated 3200 C14. However after a couple of months and several early bios revisions, the ram has run perfectly and has done up to now (currently 3333 C14 1T). I fully recommend it for Ryzen. I have not used 8pack ram, but the Gskill is equal or better IMO.
 
Martini1991 said:
The thubans came out well after the original i7 when core 2 was well and truly EOL. Invalid comparison. Phenom ii was "fine" but it was still behind the Intel of the time

When the choice when AMD or Intel when core 2 Was around it was the Intel that were better.

And if we're going to actual be factual about this. In 2008 when you bought your "crap" Core 2 Quad the AMD of the time were the Phenoms, not the II's. Then you'd be forgetting that the original II's didn't launch with the hex cores, so we've still got around another 2 years from 2008 to the launch of Thuban in 2010, which obviously is after the original i7's and even the mainstream i5/i7.
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You don't understand a thing.
The first Phenom II X4 955 were released in April 2009. On the AM3 socket. With an open upgrade path to Phenom II X6 1035T, Phenom II X6 1045T, Phenom II X6 1055T, Phenom II X6 1065T, Phenom II X6 1075T, Phenom II X6 1075T Black Edition, Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition, Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition. All on the very same AM3 socket.
AM3 was alive and well for much longer. Hell, even now, the hexa-core would be a much more viable option than any quad.

The thing that screwed me was that S.775 didn't support anything besides the original C2Q and C2D.
 
Mercutio said:
I'm not knocking the OcUK own brand (effectively) ram but... the only folks I see complaining about memory in this thread are running the 8pack stuff.
I dropped galax HOF (was cheaper than anything when I bought it) 3200 CL14 into a X470 Asus Prime (2700x), set DOCP and it booted perfectly, first time. Not had to look at it since.
I get 4.4 ghz on 1-2 cores (standard XFR2) and I've noticed a grand total of zero issues with it.
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One issue (?) is that they only seem to have a XMP/DOCP profile for max. So buying 4000 or 3600 will mean you need to do manual tweaking and that can lead to mistakes.

On the other hand i simply plugged in some 3600 set it with XMP and booted up straight away. It's showing some errors under load so reduced to 3200 until I can spend some time on it.
 
4K8KW10 said:
You don't understand a thing.
The first Phenom II X4 955 were released in April 2009. On the AM3 socket. With an open upgrade path to Phenom II X6 1035T, Phenom II X6 1045T, Phenom II X6 1055T, Phenom II X6 1065T, Phenom II X6 1075T, Phenom II X6 1075T Black Edition, Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition, Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition. All on the very same AM3 socket.
AM3 was alive and well for much longer. Hell, even now, the hexa-core would be a much more viable option than any quad.

The thing that screwed me was that S.775 didn't support anything besides the original C2Q and C2D.
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Considering I was one of the first here to have a 4GHZ stable Phenom II Quad core and I had one of the highest clocking Phenom II Hexcores, I'd suggest it's *you* who doesn't understand a thing.

When you bought your "crap" CPU in 2008, there was no AMD equivalent. That is FACT.
When Phenom II came out, it came out after the first i7's. That's FACT.

The AM3 (Hell, AM2+ because AM3 had NO exclusive CPU's) had a solid longevity, that's a fact, but that doesn't in itself make it positive. (I was AM2+ and AM3).

But to say the core 2 quads were crap is just pure rubbish, it's not at all objective. It's wrong.
 
The i7's like the 920 were faster than Thuban, like the 1090T, unless it was highly threaded like 7zip or Handbreak.

I had a 1090T, fantastic CPU but there is no denying Nehalem was better, i had one of those too, an i7 930.
 
humbug said:
The i7's like the 920 were faster than Thuban, like the 1090T, unless it was highly threaded like 7zip or Handbreak.

I had a 1090T, fantastic CPU but there is no denying Nehalem was better, i had one of those too, an i7 930.
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I bought into the thubans on launch, but the problem with them is they came out after socket 1155 really which meant a cheaper buy in.

All the money I spent on my AMD set ups would have been better spent on Intel overall, not that I regret buying AMD at that point in time.
 
I don't regret anything i have ever bought, i have found joy in everything, even the car crash that was the FX8350 and 9590, for all their flawedness they still had personality.

Edit: the 4690K was a bit boring and under resourced but still not a bad CPU.
 
Martini1991 said:
When you bought your "crap" CPU in 2008, there was no AMD equivalent. That is FACT.
When Phenom II came out, it came out after the first i7's. That's FACT.
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I don't care about the first i7s. Go back and look at the benchmarks.
I had to wait till February 2009, instead of buying the crappy LGA775 platform in August 2008. Fact.
 
4K8KW10 said:
I don't care about the first i7s. Go back and look at the benchmarks.
I had to wait till February 2009, instead of buying the crappy LGA775 platform in August 2008. Fact.
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I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say.
People had Q6600's in Q1 2007 and Q9550's in Q1 2008, the first Phenom II Quad core was January 2009 (And not as fast as the Core 2 Quads clock for clock and they both pretty much OC'ed to the same clocks).

775 had finished as a socket by the time AM3 was out yet had the faster CPU's until Thuban in 2010 (And that's obviously in those 5th and 6th threaded situations)

At no point could anyone with an ounce of objectivity refer to the Core 2 Quads as crap.

If you bought into 775 after it'd died then that's your fault, it doesn't make it crap though.
I could buy into a socket 1366 right now, if I was to judge it as crap based on today I'd be an idiot.
 
WTF has a Phenom got to do with Ryzen?? Also at the time socket 1366 boards were silly money and triple channel DDR3 was stupid money too. Most people brought a Core2 quad or Phenom II with DDR2 anyway.
 
Zeed said:
Cause people dont use darn Memory calculator for ryzen to get timings right...
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Do you know which is the best memory calculator at the moment as I'll be placing my order next week? I know there was one linked to I don't know how many pages back (Stilts?) but a few posts suggest there are other calculators?
 
Random Guy Esq. said:
Anyone?
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Yep!
It's a great board, imho. Ok, I have not tried any others to compare it to, but it's well-specced, well-built, looks good, and has a decent BIOS.
It's running my 2700X at 4.3GHz all core, and RAM at 3200MHz no problem- and once I updated to the latest BIOS, hasn't given me any issues so far.

I saw it as a happy-medium price point, not budget but not top of the range either. Since buying it, I have found a couple of reviews, and it seems to be a group-test winner in at least one of them.

Personally, I'd recommend it highly!
 
Did a bit more testing last night- tried IBT on max... Temps topped out at 78C, no lockups or other issues at 4.3GHz* all-core. It's passed everthing I've tried so far, so as far as I'm concerned, it's stable.
Very happy with that, that's a heavier ragging than it's ever going to get in day-to-day use.


*Ok, 4.290GHz, cos my silly BCLK always seems to be 99.98MHz...
 
DoneADougalOnSofa said:
Did a bit more testing last night- tried IBT on max... Temps topped out at 78C, no lockups or other issues at 4.3GHz* all-core. It's passed everthing I've tried so far, so as far as I'm concerned, it's stable.
Very happy with that, that's a heavier ragging than it's ever going to get in day-to-day use.


*Ok, 4.290GHz, cos my silly BCLK always seems to be 99.98MHz...
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Mebbe just a reading error on the bclk, got the latest hwinfo?
 
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