Memory speeds are not far from pure marketing bumph. Anything above 2133 is overclocking. The memory speeds quoted are just what the memory manufacturer "claims" to have tested their memory running at. The chances of it actually running at that speed for you are no where near 100% and I'm fairly certain the manu will not guarantee it. I have never in my close-to 20 years of building PCs had RAM run stable at it's marketing bumph speed. That's with Intel and AMD platforms. Things happen during mass production, not all the DRAM chips come from the same batch, corners are cut, you don't own the same board/cpu and you don't know what else the RAM OEM did to make their memory run at the stated speeds.
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This cant be right
I've got server's at work that run DDR4 2666 just fine - it's how the vendor ships it, completely stable.
My own systems are completly stable as well with a KabyLake box at 2400 and my Threadripper machine at 2800
I think JEDEC might argue with you there since they recognise 2133-3200 speeds as the range of fully supported official speed standards.
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I simply cannot run my 3200 ram above 2800 i did what someone suggested of using 1.46 even 1.47 v. Slacked timings to 20. Nothing will work. Gonna stay at 2800 and hope future updates allow me to run this properly, what a waste of almost 200 quid. I already had ram 2666 that would run at 2800.so just wasted my money
Yep, sadly Ryzen systems are really fussy with RAM, Ryzen's first batch only officially support 2666MHz, and the Zen+ only 2933MHz. It's a shame you get so much more performance from the higher speed, with really tight timings yet lots of people cannot manage it due to poor IF/IMC. Hopefully Zen 2 will address this issue and we'll see much better compatibility across the board with all IC manufacturers, at much better speeds.
EDIT: Can you link the RAM you bought in the OCUK shop please? Ta.
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No issues with my Sammy M.2 EVO so far wirh Ryzen, and i did what someone else suggested which was delete all the Intel chipset drivers before switching chip and mobo, install AMD chipset drivers once in Windows.. running well so far. Think i might do a fresh install at some point though
Whoever it was, they deserve the Pro Tip of the year Award!
Don't forget the samsung nvme driver.
Had that installed before and i see it installed afterwards.
So far i've not had a single issue with Windows stability and programs.. but now i've just said that
I'm just surprised it actually worked
Finally upgraded my 1600 to a 2700X over the weekend. Couldn't resist after Ebay's 20% off code brought it down to £240. Had no issue just swapping it in with my X370 board. Runs the same 3200MHz with tightened timings that I was using before no bother. I might give 3466MHz a go at some point, though I'm not expecting too much with a budget X370 board. Also just going to leave the CPU at stock for now, as overclocking seems somewhat pointless. It boosts all the way up to 4350MHz and hovers around 4GHz under full load with a Noctua NH-U14S. Pity there's no BCLK adjustment on this board though.
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Yep, sadly Ryzen systems are really fussy with RAM, Ryzen's first batch only officially support 2666MHz, and the Zen+ only 2933MHz. It's a shame you get so much more performance from the higher speed, with really tight timings yet lots of people cannot manage it due to poor IF/IMC. Hopefully Zen 2 will address this issue and we'll see much better compatibility across the board with all IC manufacturers, at much better speeds.
EDIT: Can you link the RAM you bought in the OCUK shop please? Ta.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...al-channel-kit-black-grey-tlgd-my-09s-tg.html
No problem, i looked at the compatibility list and it lists the 3000mhz team ram, but this aint it.... Didn't know i even had to check it I've been on intel so long just though it would work, being 2018 and all.. But ultimately my mistake for being a ryzen noob
That's not a B-die kit, hence the difficulties you are having. Maybe you could see if you can return it, and swap it for one of the Team Group 8-Pack kits, that has B-die Samsung IC's on it.
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It is b-die i checked with Thaiphoon Burner, Die density / Count samsung b-die (20nm) 1 dieThat's not a B-die kit, hence the difficulties you are having. Maybe you could see if you can return it, and swap it for one of the Team Group 8-Pack kits, that has B-die Samsung IC's on it.
Not at 16-18-18-36 for 3200 it isn't. Post up your Thaiphoon screenshot.
well thats cheap kuit no wounder it runs **** ... Nowhere near Samsung single rank B die.
Just notece You posted same thing.
Look another person with cheap ram is having problems on Ryzen STUNNING..... NOT....
Dunno how many times We need to say that You buy Flate X3200cl14 or Teamgroup 3200cl14 8 pack kit for ryzen or something better. You want to go cheap on Ram ?? Go intel simple.
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Ryzen is pants with RAM, its a real issue, though many get lucky and it works out the box at advertised speeds.
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I bought Team Group B Die and still have issues.
If it's not the ram it's the mobo which is still the AM4 platform.
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Don't know what your guys problem is to be honest, it's not cheap ram at all, just because it's on sale from £179 rrp (£20 less than the brands you talk about) doesn't make it cheap
Read the review of on OC of the ram i bought ?
And I will post a screen shot of thaiphoon, but it will still say samsung b-die, you think i am just making it up?
we all know yours motherboard is junk including You
if ya want we can swap kits ill be happy with an upgrade If it was B-die it would be rated at 14-14-14 3200 @1.35v. In the link you posted it was rated at 16-18-18-36, It's not B-die simple as.
if it really is B die its the worst binned leftovers they had left from good kits no other option. They look at them and are like damn its worse than hynix just put it together and sell at whetever we can get back LOL