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Ryzen "2" ?

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AndreiD said:
Don't think we'll see 10nm Icelake in 2019, or if we do it's going to be only mobile parts towards the end of the year. AMD is going to have at least 1 quarter where they will be on a considerably higher density node than Intel, which is historic.
Intel will probably refresh their consumer & data center CPUs on 14nm next year, and 10nm for 2020 on those lines, so AMD can be very competitive depending on 7nm HPC performance.
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I thought 10nm would appear in 2019 when they said it'd be 2018 so now they say it'll be 2019 I expect it in 2020. :D

It's still a shame that Ryzen 3 might not appear in Q1 like that last two iterations, it just feels like anything sub-14 nm is mythical at this point (Ryzen 2's 12nm process essentially being 14nm+).
 
Depends on how fast they can improve 10nm yields, any product designs for 10nm are probably long done, it's manufacturing that's holding those products back. But late 2019 would be the earliest/most optimistic date for any Xeon or Core 10nm products from Intel. Even in that scenario AMD would have 1 quarter with a massive density advantage.

And how fast we'll see Ryzen 3/Epyc 2 depends on how fast TSMC can ramp up their 7nm HPC, but most analysts seem to predict H2 2019. Shame it takes so long, but it's understandable since design costs and difficulty on smaller nodes increases exponentially.
 
damn nice 10 cores on mainstream platform. If they could somehow improve the ram to around 4000 and decent overclocking 4.5Ghz for example they would have a killer chip.
 
Hmm very interesting. Not seen so much action in CPUs for a very long time. Could be the new low end TR? How would they get two more cores onto Ryzen?
 
Might be a niche SKU with more cache, I'm curious what's the die config for it, 6+4 or 3+3+2+2/4+2+2+2 or maybe some weird 4+4+2? Can't see them using more than 2 dies for a lower priced SKU though, so I think 6+4 is the most likely config.
 
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