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Ryzen "2" ?

sideways14a said:
The 1800 likely is boosting with xfr as well, those will be old figures they must have got for previous reviews.
The 2xxx chips are on a naff board so prob no xfr and god knows what effect on boost.

So.. we know... nothing :p
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Except they put up a chart with their tested boost results, when you look at it and actually study it their numbers don't add up, you overclock an 1800X by 10% you get a lot more than 3% extra gaming performance, its not 1:1 scaling but its not far off, even the memory scaling on Ryzen is 0.6:1
 
Does anyone know the deal with the 3 series chipsets and the new chips? Are there gonna be problems getting higher mem frequencies and overclocks etc, or is it too early yet (dumb question probably).

Just curios as to why the new chipsets.

And 4.35Ghz, very nice to see this confirmed :D 4.5Ghz and higher is gonna be AMAZING on these chips :D Took a while, but they got there.
 
Scougar said:
Does anyone know the deal with the 3 series chipsets and the new chips? Are there gonna be problems getting higher mem frequencies and overclocks etc, or is it too early yet (dumb question probably).

Just curios as to why the new chipsets.

And 4.35Ghz, very nice to see this confirmed :D 4.5Ghz and higher is gonna be AMAZING on these chips :D Took a while, but they got there.
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Everything so far points to (almost) no difference. The 4xx chipsets supposedly just have tighter restrictions, probably to support better power delivery, but 3xx series chipsets should work absolutely fine. You might lose a tiny bit of XFR but that's it.

Martini1991 said:
Don't know why after the success of Ryzen that this successor iteration seems a bit of a mess lol.
AMD never seem to be able to keep momentum.
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What do you mean? We've had next to nothing official yet so by definition nothing can be a mess, lol.
 
Scougar said:
Does anyone know the deal with the 3 series chipsets and the new chips? Are there gonna be problems getting higher mem frequencies and overclocks etc, or is it too early yet (dumb question probably).

Just curios as to why the new chipsets.

And 4.35Ghz, very nice to see this confirmed :D 4.5Ghz and higher is gonna be AMAZING on these chips :D Took a while, but they got there.
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This isn't a sanctioned review, if not fake it should be categorised as a leak.

Assuming this isn't just fake trash they don't have any 400 series motherboards to test because they don't exist yet, as for your question, some AMD guy let slip "4000Mhz memory will be easily achievable on X470 motherboards" note he said "on X470 motherboards" so we can assume that higher memory speeds will be tied to the new Chip-Sets, that might be an incentive to upgrade the board.
 
humbug said:
This isn't a sanctioned review, if not fake it should be categorised as a leak.

Assuming this isn't just fake trash they don't have any 400 series motherboards to test because they don't exist yet, as for your question, some AMD guy let slip "4000Mhz memory will be easily achievable on X470 motherboards" note he said "on X470 motherboards" so we can assume that higher memory speeds will be tied to the new Chip-Sets, that might be an incentive to upgrade the board.
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Will be nice if the chips hit the mid 4Ghz range with 4000mhz memory and decent timings.
 
Martini1991 said:
Exactly.
Ryzen was a success with flaws, but we knew a fair amount about it before it launched. We know next to nothing of this iteration.
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Is this not because they don't want to hurt the sales of their existing 1XXX series chips? Ryzen wiped the floor with AMDs previous processors so it would make sense for them to hype it up as they would want to drive sales for it.
 
humbug said:
This isn't a sanctioned review, if not fake it should be categorised as a leak.

Assuming this isn't just fake trash they don't have any 400 series motherboards to test because they don't exist yet, as for your question, some AMD guy let slip "4000Mhz memory will be easily achievable on X470 motherboards" note he said "on X470 motherboards" so we can assume that higher memory speeds will be tied to the new Chip-Sets, that might be an incentive to upgrade the board.
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This review was disappointing on so many levels. I really wanted to see the memory speeds the x470 chipset could run with. This was like chicken wings without the sauce. We were all waiting on the sauce!!!
 
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NinjaCool said:
Computerbase.de has issues about the Ryzen 2 review from CanardPC Hardware and here is why.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/87awjz/computerbasede_about_the_canard_pc_review_of_the/
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CanardPC has identified slightly more than three percentage points advantage in games and 15 percent advantage in applications for the Ryzen 7 2700X compared to the Ryzen 7 1800X. The 1st generation Ryzen was tested with DDR4-2666, the second generation with DDR4-2933. However, the magazine currently does not provide information on other settings.
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Yeah 3.4% with 9.5% higher clocks and 2666Mhz vs 2933Mhz i'm calling CanardPC utter 'Male Bovine Manure'

Why? 3.4% with a 9.5% higher clock on the 2700X and.... https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ryzen-1-memory-scaling-testing.18813342/

From 2666Mhz to 2933Mhz boost gaming performance on its own by 5%, look at any Ryzen Memory Speed gaming testing they all tell you roughly what my results show.

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So with 9.5% higher clocks and with memory speed difference that should get them around 5% higher performance, from all that CanardPC claim its 3.4%

I'm not messing about with this anymore, CanardPC took the existing fake leaks and made some very poorly chosen numbers up and published fake benchmark results.
 
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humbug said:
From 2666Mhz to 2933Mhz boost gaming performance on its own by 5%, look at any Ryzen Memory Speed gaming testing they all tell you roughly what my results show.
So with 9.5% higher clocks and with memory speed difference that should get them around 5% higher performance, from all that CanardPC claim its 3.4%
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Yes it seems we might get several % boost in performance once we actually get a proper review out.
chroniclard said:
Also while these might drop into a x370 board, will the 370 fully support all the xfr/turbo/whatever gubbins?
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I think Precision Boost Overdrive is only available on the new boards with a Ryzen 2 CPU.
The X370 boards supports regular XFR2 but I don't think it supports XFR2 Enhanced.
 
Martini1991 said:
Exactly.
Ryzen was a success with flaws, but we knew a fair amount about it before it launched. We know next to nothing of this iteration.
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Let's face it, it's basically a refresh. If they were shouting from the rooftops about a 10% clock speed bump you'd laugh at them like everyone laughed at "poor volta". Makes sense to me that they're being quiet.
 
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