Ryzen "2" ?

Zeed · 4 Apr 2018 at 22:31

Will do as You see 2700 got chance to catch up/pass my 5ghz 2500k in RAW ST performance

BTW that 2500k build is still working @ my home after my sister gamed on it then gave it to my dad. Family of 5ghz

Lost file with benchmarks of 5820k vs ryzen when i swaped SSD for NVME i think

but he 5820k was faster in every single game.
Besides WoW in 3D think it loves cache

sideways14a · 4 Apr 2018 at 22:32

I dont know why everyone gets such a stiffy over flipping games, especially old rubbish poorly coded ones.
Gaming is only one small part of what a PC can do, its not even as if AMDs chips are that far behind Intels ones either when it comes to gaming - the FPS numbers at resolutions and detail levels you would realistically use are not separated by much at all.
Having a few% higher frames in a rubbish port of a game is hardly worth the compromise of more future proofed silicon and a better all round bit of kit.

Zeed · 4 Apr 2018 at 22:38

I can tell ya that when im gaming on my oculus rift GPU is botleneck not CPU

ha found photo of my Phenom X3 cooler the ASUS STAR ICE

Had extra fan added on back it looked like jet engine and... sounded like one

I hope 2700 can push my memory to rated 3733 or at least 3600cl14

ltron · 4 Apr 2018 at 22:51

Webzta said:
Glad I spent a ridiculous amount on the Asus then...!

What's your RAM at? My brother got cold boot issues randomly at 3200 MHz no matter the voltage yet it's stable as a rock at 3066 MHz. It may be a CPU IMC issue in your case too.

TeraVirus · 4 Apr 2018 at 22:54

ltron said:
What's your RAM at? My brother got cold boot issues randomly at 3200 MHz no matter the voltage yet it's stable as a rock at 3066 MHz. It may be a CPU IMC issue in your case too.

I've seen this "cold booting" issue in a few posts. What is it and should I be concerned?

I'm considering the C7H motherboard by the end of the month.

Nutella33 · 5 Apr 2018 at 03:45

It was fixed via bios updates a few months in. Haven't had it for at least 6 months.

It would just loop a few times on boot before getting going.

Zeed · 5 Apr 2018 at 06:37

Yup Cold boot was fixed somewhere around 1701 bios on c6h if i remember good

FlanK3r · 5 Apr 2018 at 08:21

Zeed said:
for gaming my 5820k was hands down faster at 4.45 than my ryzen is. Scored 10 more in st in cinebench. And my 5820k was crap clocker and could not do more than 2666 on DDR4 !!!
My ST score is 166 btw

so

Cinebench: 2700X
MT: 1948 @ 4.3Ghz (+9.3%)
ST: 178 @ 4.3Ghz (+6.6%)

Its on pair ST with 5820k

Saying tht 5960X is still faster than Zen+ when both overclocked /thread

Are u kidding me

))?I have both and more CPUs in my collection and thats not true.
I have with my Ryzen 7 1800x score close to 1950 at 4130MHz. Stable at 4075MHz with AIO.
Believe me, 2700x has in right hands higher score than 1950 at 4300MHz (2000 is doable).
There is typical OC at 5960x over 4500MHz
http://hwbot.org/submission/2721155_splmann_cinebench___r15_core_i7_5960x_1822_cb

Yaayuh! · 5 Apr 2018 at 08:23

TeraVirus said:
I've seen this "cold booting" issue in a few posts. What is it and should I be concerned?

I'm considering the C7H motherboard by the end of the month.

Memory training issue on boot which would loop a few times before it boots. It was a slight inconvenience.

Zeed · 5 Apr 2018 at 08:33

FlanK3r said:
Are u kidding me ))?I have both and more CPUs in my collection and thats not true.
I have with my Ryzen 7 1800x score close to 1950 at 4130MHz. Stable at 4075MHz with AIO.
Believe me, 2700x has in right hands higher score than 1950 at 4300MHz (2000 is doable).
There is typical OC at 5960x over 4500MHz
http://hwbot.org/submission/2721155_splmann_cinebench___r15_core_i7_5960x_1822_cb

Post Yours 5820 ST benchmark screenshot then.
And we are talking 24/7 stable not benchable overclock. Mine is 100% stable score on everything possible. I can bench at 4.1 but whats the point if its not stable ??
And We are talking ST NOT MT performance here. Everyone knows 4 more threads will be faster in MT aplications
I'w just posted ST performance on 5 systems max oc

in case You missed it:

chrcoluk · 5 Apr 2018 at 08:34

guys if you going to bench at least bench with something that is relevant to real usage, something like passmark.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

The r5 is above my cpu in this table so I am not trying to score intel points humbug

I just think passmark is a better bench to run than cinebench.

Webster · 5 Apr 2018 at 08:35

ltron said:
What's your RAM at? My brother got cold boot issues randomly at 3200 MHz no matter the voltage yet it's stable as a rock at 3066 MHz. It may be a CPU IMC issue in your case too.

I have 8 Pack 3600Mhz @ 3200Mhz, I just have to go into the bios then cancel and it boots back into windows. I will try that for now, if it works I'll swap it out for the new range.

Zeed · 5 Apr 2018 at 09:49

Webzta said:
I have 8 Pack 3600Mhz @ 3200Mhz, I just have to go into the bios then cancel and it boots back into windows. I will try that for now, if it works I'll swap it out for the new range.

Its related to how ryzens IMC train memory at boot. 100% fixable with bios update. We uswd to have special bios for this issue that you flashed before flashing normal bios.

What boot atempt count You got set up i used to have 5 now on auto with moded 3602 bios

Ad_Augendae · 5 Apr 2018 at 10:20

Team Group give there view in answer to a review.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/SingleProductReview.aspx?ReviewID=5144273

The Muricans seem to like this ram as well.

Webster · 5 Apr 2018 at 10:24

Zeed said:
Its related to how ryzens IMC train memory at boot. 100% fixable with bios update. We uswd to have special bios for this issue that you flashed before flashing normal bios.

What boot atempt count You got set up i used to have 5 now on auto with moded 3602 bios

Not sure I have changed that setting - I am running the new beta bios at the moment but have had the same issue with all.

I'll check at home later and report back. May make a seperate thread so I don't clog this up.

Thanks

Phage · 5 Apr 2018 at 10:32

Never had any cold boot issues. I'm on Bios 1403 and RAM at 3200

HeX · 5 Apr 2018 at 10:36

Running the 8pack TG 3200 TG RAM at 3466 C15 never had a cold boot issue on the Taichi.

LOLN1 · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:02

30 minutes ready test of the ryzen 2700
Stay tune

NinjaCool · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:06

Thanks for testing it for us!

humbug · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:33

Zeed said:
Post Yours 5820 ST benchmark screenshot then.
And we are talking 24/7 stable not benchable overclock. Mine is 100% stable score on everything possible. I can bench at 4.1 but whats the point if its not stable ??
And We are talking ST NOT MT performance here. Everyone knows 4 more threads will be faster in MT aplications
I'w just posted ST performance on 5 systems max oc

in case You missed it:

Why are you not using R15? why R11.5?

Cinebench R11.5 is known to have code in it where if it detects an AMD CPU it will deliberately gimp AMD's performance. here is the Anti trust https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cases/091216intelcmpt.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4et7kDGSRfc&t=226

If you didn't know about this fair enought but now that you do use R15.