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Ryzen "2" ?

~>Dg<~ said:
no. if you want big drops in mp on big games yeah gert ryzen.bf1 this can happen in big games. pubg upto 30 fps differenc



for gaming no. pubg shows upto 30 fps difference even on i5s.fortnite can also bf1.so basically a huge chunk of games most of us play.on a modern monitor the drops can be horrid on ryzens.in certain games.

pubg showing differences. https://www.techspot.com/article/1532-pubg-cpu-benchmarks/
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Oh come on Dg stop being such a shill, on the 1600 vs the 8700K its 96 vs 123 FPS at 1080P on "very low settings" with a 1080TI, yes i understand and agree with the reasoning behind that BUT who plays on very low settings with a 1080TI?

I did upgrade from Intel to Ryzen, Dg, and this video illustrates one reason why, on my higher mid level GPU the 4690K just couldn't handle it anymore, this is 4K, look at the CPU usage, its often at 100% and the frame rates, can you see that micro stuttering? its horrendous.

 
humbug said:
Oh come on Dg stop being such a shill, on the 1600 vs the 8700K its 96 vs 123 FPS at 1080P on "very low settings" with a 1080TI, yes i understand and agree with the reasoning behind that BUT who plays on very low settings with a 1080TI?

I did upgrade from Intel to Ryzen, Dg, and this video illustrates one reason why, on my higher mid level GPU the 4690K just couldn't handle it anymore, this is 4K, look at the CPU usage, its often at 100% and the frame rates, can you see that micro stuttering? its horrendous.

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i do most of my friends do who play pubg.also on high hz monitors.some even have sli 1080s/1080 tis and still play on low as the fps matters.
 
Yes and keep in mind that the 1600 has an all core boost of 3.4Ghz, vs 4.3Ghz on the 8700K.

Its 96 vs 123 FPS on a 1080TI with very low settings.

Its hardly a revelation or a big deal, its much of nothing really, its not such a difference despite the huge difference in clock speed.
 
Zeed said:
WWhat a wuss :p my 2500k was runing on 1.48 constant no downclocking ect. And its still going what 6-7 years later same oc lol.

My ryzen is on 1.425-1.44 since day one :)
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Fair enough, so those voltages aren't completely mental then I guess. I could push my chip a bit more, I just don't think it's worth it when it already gets to 80+ degrees when stress testing and uses 125 W at idle. :o
 
~>Dg<~ said:
so because the amd chips have horrid performance in it yet intel chips do a lot better its not optimized ? :p

its true in most games maybe they all unoptimized ?
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You're exaggeration its significance, there are other higher clocked Ryzen CPU's in that, the 1800X purely because its clocked higher is getting 106, vs 123 for the 8700K.

Run the same benchmark again, at the same 1080P resolution but this time with very high image quality settings, all those CPU's will bunch up, you couldn't get a Rizla paper between them.
 
humbug said:
You're exaggeration its significance, there are other higher clocked Ryzen CPU's in that, the 1800X purely because its clocked higher is getting 106, vs 123 for the 8700K.

Run the same benchmark again, at the same 1080P resolution but this time with very high image quality settings, all those CPU's will bunch up, you couldn't get a Rizla paper between them.
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This actually goes back to what i was saying before.

humbug said:
Yes but the question is is it enough?

In multithreading the 2700X will kick the 8700K's derrière, the 1800X is already faster, so is it enough to justify the price difference between the 8700K and 2700? not just for the price of the CPU but also the very expensive cooling solution need to to keep the Mhz up that the 8700K needs to be at its best, the 2700 will do that on a £30 air cooler, all this is also ignoring having to take the Heat Spreader off the 8700K.

If we just stick with gaming. The 8700K is the best gaming CPU, that fact while reduced will remain, so yes if you want the very best what you want is the 8700K, but that will cost you, a lot more.

The fact is for me the 1600 is every bit as good as the 8700K, i don't have the very best GPU's, its more than capable of providing what i do have with enough performance for it to run at its best. whats more i and those with lesser GPU's account for probably about 95% of PC Gamers, so for 95% of PC Gamers a Ryzen 6 core is just as good as Intel's best 6 core.
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So for how many people is your slide relevant to?
How many people run 1080TI's and run PUBG at 1080P very low settings?

Almost no one, which means in PUBG for almost everyone the Ryzen 1600 will give you exactly the same performance as the 8700K even if you are running a 1080TI.

Its almost as if you want Ryzen to be Bulldozer, it isn't.
 
TheGez said:
I just really hope that there will be white pcb x470 motherboards for my future white themed build.
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Im going for black / white and grey theme so I have a Fractal Design R6 which has white bladed fans and expansion slot covers.
I currently like the look of the Asrock Taichi http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/asrock-x470-taichi-(ultimate)-series-leaks.html
Will go for a Fractal Design 240 AIO cooler with the same white bladed fans with some 8 pack team group memory. All I need now is to choose what video card to get but its probably going to be an EVGA unit most likely a https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6698-KR.

Wont be going RGB but will put some UV lighting in.
 
TheGez said:
I just really hope that there will be white pcb x470 motherboards for my future white themed build.
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killem said:
Im going for black / white and grey theme so I have a Fractal Design R6 which has white bladed fans and expansion slot covers.
I currently like the look of the Asrock Taichi http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/asrock-x470-taichi-(ultimate)-series-leaks.html
Will go for a Fractal Design 240 AIO cooler with the same white bladed fans with some 8 pack team group memory. All I need now is to choose what video card to get but its probably going to be an EVGA unit most likely a https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6698-KR.

Wont be going RGB but will put some UV lighting in.
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Bah! Back in my day there was no such thing as themed builds or windowed cases. Hell, my PC is under my desk so you can't see it anyway. :p
 
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Will be interesting to see what 2800X or TR chips will do.
 
So looks like we've found the limit of Ryzen 2 if you are willing to make a suicide run.

4.4 is still a big deficit to the 5.3 you would get likely get on a suicide run on an 8700K.
 
DragonQ said:
Bah! Back in my day there was no such thing as themed builds or windowed cases. Hell, my PC is under my desk so you can't see it anyway. :p
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Well I have been building my own computers since the 386 SX days so I know back in the day choice was limited but I do like a nice looking build nowadays. :D
 
gavinh87 said:
91c!! That must be on some serious voltage there!
Oh wait, 1.544v-1.581v. This must be some benchmark run because theres no way that can run like that 24/7.
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Gav you are far to negative, the top speed achieved for Ryzen version 1 is 5.8, and 2454 on Cinebench, just because you don't have industrial grade cooling ;)

(There is no way I am putting 1.6v through mine :) )
 
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