Ryzen "2" ?

gavinh87 · 7 Apr 2018 at 21:00

DarkHorizon472 said:
Gav you are far to negative, the top speed achieved for Ryzen version 1 is 5.8, and 2454 on Cinebench, just because you don't have industrial grade cooling

(There is no way I am putting 1.6v through mine )

Haha, yeah you are right. The money people save on ryzen should go into LN2/phase cooling

TheGez · 7 Apr 2018 at 21:05

killem said:
Im going for black / white and grey theme so I have a Fractal Design R6 which has white bladed fans and expansion slot covers.
I currently like the look of the Asrock Taichi http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/asrock-x470-taichi-(ultimate)-series-leaks.html
Will go for a Fractal Design 240 AIO cooler with the same white bladed fans with some 8 pack team group memory. All I need now is to choose what video card to get but its probably going to be an EVGA unit most likely a https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6698-KR.

Wont be going RGB but will put some UV lighting in.

I'm looking to put mine in an Inwin 303c case and I'm hoping for a Gigabyte Designare like x470 board.

sideways14a · 7 Apr 2018 at 21:49

Has anyone found the single core max yet?
4.3 all cores is great but could that 4.4 run be done on more reasonable volts for 24x7 use? maybe a little bit down the line when the new process gets a bit more mature...

DragonQ · 7 Apr 2018 at 23:01

I think for 24/7 you're looking at 4.3 for the top chips, 4.2 more likely.

jigger · 8 Apr 2018 at 00:17

4.3 with even small gains from the rework is plenty in such a short time frame. That would be like 5 years of Intel gains.

kitfit1 · 8 Apr 2018 at 00:56

jigger said:
4.3 with even small gains from the rework is plenty in such a short time frame. That would be like 5 years of Intel gains.

+1
We have been told time and time again on this thread and others that Ryzen max clock is 3.9Ghz to 4.1Ghz. Well, as it happens in all the time i've had my 1700 i've never seen one post on here to prove that. By that i mean to say 12 hours OCCT AVX enabled. The only post i have ever seen on this forum is my own post at 3.8Ghz OCCT 12 hours AVX enabled. So i actually take all the 4 to 4.1Ghz claims with a large pinch of salt. But i would defo take an increase to 4.2Ghz with both hands and 4.3Ghz if i got a lucky chip.

humbug · 8 Apr 2018 at 01:06

I'm happy with 4.2 to 4.3

Ad_Augendae · 8 Apr 2018 at 01:17

My chips do 3.9 very cool and stable but they are 1800's using 3200mhz memory 3333 is do-able 3466 not so much. anything above 3200 Isn't 100% stable imho.

Mercutio · 8 Apr 2018 at 01:45

From reading around quite a lot and getting references from a few places. 15th April is NDA. Don't think I've seen it mentioned here yet.

haszek · 8 Apr 2018 at 03:00

Mercutio said:
From reading around quite a lot and getting references from a few places. 15th April is NDA. Don't think I've seen it mentioned here yet.

That would be weird NDA lift on Sunday :rolleyes:

Zeed · 8 Apr 2018 at 05:23

DragonQ said:
Fair enough, so those voltages aren't completely mental then I guess. I could push my chip a bit more, I just don't think it's worth it when it already gets to 80+ degrees when stress testing and uses 125 W at idle.

All depends on cooling setup. My nova can cool down 1kw lol. It used to cool 480gtx x2 and sandybridge at 5hhz EASY lol

Zeed · 8 Apr 2018 at 05:29

kitfit1 said:
+1
We have been told time and time again on this thread and others that Ryzen max clock is 3.9Ghz to 4.1Ghz. Well, as it happens in all the time i've had my 1700 i've never seen one post on here to prove that. By that i mean to say 12 hours OCCT AVX enabled. The only post i have ever seen on this forum is my own post at 3.8Ghz OCCT 12 hours AVX enabled. So i actually take all the 4 to 4.1Ghz claims with a large pinch of salt. But i would defo take an increase to 4.2Ghz with both hands and 4.3Ghz if i got a lucky chip.

×1
I can do 4 stable but max memory 3200cl14. Or 3950 with memory at 3333cl15 or 3466cl15.
This will pass 1000%hci whole nighr of brime realbench whatever.

I hope that on zen+ memory speed will have less impact on maximum cpu clock.

B12B6 · 8 Apr 2018 at 09:11

With aftermarket cooling I dont think 4,3 with 2700X will be a problem 24/7 use. What I get from russian site they already have memory runnin 3600CL 14/3666CL14, 3733CL14 not stable and 3800CL14 wont post. With 3600/3666 memory latency is 5Xns. There should be more memory tweaking today, but I would say it looks promising.

Martini1991 · 8 Apr 2018 at 09:36

jigger said:
4.3 with even small gains from the rework is plenty in such a short time frame. That would be like 5 years of Intel gains.

Why am I not surprised by a comment like this.

If all this launch ends up improving is clocks by 300-400mhz its actually the worst follow up chip AMD have launched in three generations in terms of gains.

This follow up is more akin to the Kabylake that people like you slated.

I can live with 10% gains, but had this been an Intel launch the comments would be different

DarkHorizon472 · 8 Apr 2018 at 10:00

Martini1991 said:
Why am I not surprised by a comment like this.

If all this launch ends up improving is clocks by 300-400mhz its actually the worst follow up chip AMD have launched in three generations in terms of gains.

This follow up is more akin to the Kabylake that people like you slated.

I can live with 10% gains, but had this been an Intel launch the comments would be different

4.3 is roughly what most expected, anything about this is a bonus, it is not a redesign or significant update this time.

gavinh87 · 8 Apr 2018 at 10:04

Martini1991 said:
Why am I not surprised by a comment like this.

If all this launch ends up improving is clocks by 300-400mhz its actually the worst follow up chip AMD have launched in three generations in terms of gains.

This follow up is more akin to the Kabylake that people like you slated.

I can live with 10% gains, but had this been an Intel launch the comments would be different

+1

LOLN1 · 8 Apr 2018 at 10:43

Gta5 benchmark ryzen 2700x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu6QKJ5yn50

BongoHunter · 8 Apr 2018 at 10:47

I think this release is in line with expectations for me, not even AMD have been hyping it that much, I'm not sure why the community have got so stoked about Zen+, it not like the jump from previous gen to Ryzen if that's what people were hoping for!

These were the slides they presented on 1st of Feb (top image is expected IPC gain)

HeX · 8 Apr 2018 at 11:29

Martini1991 said:
Why am I not surprised by a comment like this.

If all this launch ends up improving is clocks by 300-400mhz its actually the worst follow up chip AMD have launched in three generations in terms of gains.

This follow up is more akin to the Kabylake that people like you slated.

I can live with 10% gains, but had this been an Intel launch the comments would be different

It's exactly the CPU AMD said it would be, Zen on a new fab with ~10% improvement. If anyone expected any different then that's on them.

We won't see anything major until Zen2 next year.

Zeed · 8 Apr 2018 at 11:46

Martini1991 said:
Why am I not surprised by a comment like this.

If all this launch ends up improving is clocks by 300-400mhz its actually the worst follow up chip AMD have launched in three generations in terms of gains.

This follow up is more akin to the Kabylake that people like you slated.

I can live with 10% gains, but had this been an Intel launch the comments would be different

Yup if i remember good thats what intel is pumping out every year. Around 8-10%.
Zen+ is spot on where i expected and with few tests I'w seen IMC is better and thats main thing for me at least. Get them latencies down

@HeX
We posted same thing. In general i expect 2700x plus x470 to be more mature platform with motherboards fixed up where they had weak points due to rush design for x370.

Realllly intwrested to see how much better vrm section for memory is