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Ryzen 2600 vs i5 8400, intresting reults

Martini1991 said:
I don't understand the guff about stock coolers. I've used loads of Intel stock coolers over the years and they've been absolutely fine for running the CPU at stock. Obviously AMD's later ones are much better, but that's only making up for their abysmal ones during the prior generations that sounded like a hoover.
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I agree the stock coolers are fine if your running at stock and dont mind temps around the 60's to 70's etc, the minute you want to OC the CPU though you need to replace that cooler. Millions of those stock coolers keep computers in offices running fine, so yeah they are fit for purpose for what they are designed to do.
 
Ah ok, i thought the 8400 didn't come with a stock cooler.... yeah fair enough, but lets be honest, the Ryzen Box cooler is a good quality cooler thats capable and quiet, capable enough to run a good overclock on the 2600, its a comfortably usable cooler.

Intel's coolers are junk, you wouldn't actually use it unless as a stop gap to buying one.
 
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As for ram costs..
Well thats just blown out of proportion as well.
Quick look at overclockers store has

8gb kit
2666mhz £79.99
3200 £94.99
16gb
2666 £158.99
3200 £169.99

So er massive... :p
 
humbug said:
Ah ok, i thought the 8400 didn't come with a stock cooler.... yeah fair enough, but lets be honest, the Ryzen Box cooler is a good quality cooler thats capable and quiet, capable enough to run a good overclock on the 2600, its a comfortably usable cooler.

Intel's coolers are junk, you wouldn't actually use it unless as a stop gap to buying one.
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The 8400 can't be overclocked, you'd just use the stock cooler regardless of its quality.
 
Intels stock cooler is much more likely going to throttle on you under heavy loads in a hot environment, heck i see it here with the quad core i5s in crap HP and dell machines sometimes.
 
sideways14a said:
Intels stock cooler is much more likely going to throttle on you under heavy loads in a hot environment, heck i see it here with the quad core i5s in crap HP and dell machines sometimes.
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Off topic but HP and Dell generally don't use the stock cooler.

Intel Stock cooler for Core2Duo onwards has generally been fine however - I've run numerous 1366/1156/1155 machines with stock coolers over the last few years at work with no issues.
 
Anyone know how to role back Arma III builds? 'Arma3Legacy###' Steam code no longer works, damn it! :O i want to test the Ryzen patch vs pre-patch.
 
humbug said:
Anyone know how to role back Arma III builds? 'Arma3Legacy###' Steam code no longer works, damn it! :O i want to test the Ryzen patch vs pre-patch.
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This used to work, in fact most of my Arma III play mates are Linux fanboys :P and they are always slow with update patches so i had to role back often.

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No they dont tend to use stock intel cooling hardware but a small number of our stock do, that said the dell/hp own brand cooling on its own is not much better than intels - the fans can ramp up to really noisy speeds.
 
Radeon85 said:
Couldn't agree more with this comment I read as well "
For the price you pay for the premium ram, new cooler, and mobo for the ryzen 2600 oc, you can buy an i7 8700."

In order to get the best out of Ryzen you will always need expensive high speed RAM. Until RAM is cheap again Intel is still the better option for gaming.
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I agree, you'd have to me a massive AMD fanboy if purchasing this just for gaming. Completely negates the whole value argument.
 
gavinh87 said:
I agree, you'd have to me a massive AMD fanboy if purchasing this just for gaming. Completely negates the whole value argument.
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The 8700 is £120 more expensive and also not overclockable, if you put 8700 and 8400 results side by side IMO you're not going to find much difference, i would bet they are quite similar and the 2600 when overclocked is solidly faster than the 8400 so with that at least equal to the 8700 for £120 less.

The 8400 or the 8700 cannot be reasoned over the 2600.
 
humbug said:
The 8700 is £120 more expensive and also not overclockable, if you put 8700 and 8400 results side by side IMO you're not going to find much difference, i would bet they are quite similar and the 2600 when overclocked is solidly faster than the 8400 so with that at least equal to the 8700 for £120 less.

The 8400 or the 8700 cannot be reasoned over the 2600.
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You need a decent board for that 2600. There are numerous reports of it not overclocking well on a b350 board. Add in the increased ram cost. I'd like to see how the 2600 does in an mmo like guild wars or wow against the i5. Can't wait for faster Gpus to arrive!
 
Martini1991 said:
I've never understood this. Every single Intel stock cooler I've used is quiet (That said the first Intel stock cooler I used was for an E5200) whereas the same cannot be said of AMD (Until recently)
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The 4690K cooler that i had sounded like a leaf blower, that's a standard Intel cooler, it was twice as loud as the Ryzen spire cooler which actually is quiet.
 
gavinh87 said:
You need a decent board for that 2600. There are numerous reports of it not overclocking well on a b350 board. Add in the increased ram cost. I'd like to see how the 2600 does in an mmo like guild wars or wow against the i5. Can't wait for faster Gpus to arrive!
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No you don't and no there aren't. my board is a £75 board.
 
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