Ryzen 5600x vs 3700x

[Joxeon]

I know this was posted earlier (perhaps in another thread) but this is reassuring me that the 5600x is the chip for me.

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-vs-intel-core-i5-10600k-benchmarks

I keep a CPU 2-3 years, I don't do any rendering or encoding etc. Like I've said earlier, 6 cores is fine especially for me moving 2600x > 5600x. Reading the link above "the Ryzen 5 5600X was up to 18.8% and 44.6% faster than its previous-gen counterpart." I'm on an even older CPU so for me personally just using SiSoftware as comparison still...

2600X = 181.55GOPS | 358.92Mpix/s
3600X = 214.89GOPS | 625.51Mpix/s
3700X = 281.46GOPS | 856.35Mpix/s (Added for completeness as the thread is 5600X vs 3700X after all but I'm purely focusing on the 6 cores here, but useful to include.)
5600X = 255.22 GOPS | 904.38 Mpix/s

So if my maths is right, going from 2600X > 5600X in this teeny micro test would yield a 40.57% and 151.97% increase! I paid £160, 2 years ago, for the 2600X (so it has cost me 22p a day). Lets assume the 5600X remains £289.99 then that's a £129.99 increase (or 17p a day more if kept for 2 years meaning a daily cost of 39p). For that sort of performance vs price increase, I don't see an issue with that. And if that sort of increase is shown across multiple benchmarks, then sign me up. Keep the more expensive 8 core CPUs for people that actually need the extra cores. I'm looking for best bang for buck vs my 2600X.

Happy days! Roll on the 5th...

Had you brought the i7 8700K on release and kept it for 5 years it would have only cost you 20p per day and you would have enjoyed superior performance for 3 of those 5 years over ryzen 5s.

 

[Mr Oblong]

280mm is the smallest I'd go for I think. Will have another think as the price is identical to the Noctua...

It's also the first time I've gone with water cooling, so the novelty is a decent factor for me.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

It's also the first time I've gone with water cooling, so the novelty is a decent factor for me.

It's definitely a lot cleaner versus the CHONK of a tower cooler. Given the current situation with 3080s, I reckon I have another 2 months to finalise my decision anyway (at the very least).

 

[Mr Oblong]

It's definitely a lot cleaner versus the CHONK of a tower cooler. Given the current situation with 3080s, I reckon I have another 2 months to finalise my decision anyway (at the very least).

I also liked the heat soak ability of a radiator, the time to raise the fluid temps means a lot of shorter burst workloads can be absorbed without the fans spinning up so much.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

I also liked the heat soak ability of a radiator, the time to raise the fluid temps means a lot of shorter burst workloads can be absorbed without the fans spinning up so much.

That'll be very useful for when I get a 5-man collateral headshot, and the CPU goes into overdrive, trying to make sense of what happened. Sorry, what....
Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

 

[Firegod]

Had you brought the i7 8700K on release and kept it for 5 years it would have only cost you 20p per day and you would have enjoyed superior performance for 3 of those 5 years over ryzen 5s.

I only got back into gaming 2 years ago.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

I also liked the heat soak ability of a radiator, the time to raise the fluid temps means a lot of shorter burst workloads can be absorbed without the fans spinning up so much.

Just looked at some Noctua NH-D15 reviews... The cooler is 165mm tall, but at least 185mm with any reasonable height RAM installed.... Time to consider the Arctic Freezer II 280mm, haha.

 

[Mr Oblong]

Just looked at some Noctua NH-D15 reviews... The cooler is 165mm tall, but at least 185mm with any reasonable height RAM installed.... Time to consider the Arctic Freezer II 280mm, haha.

Yes, get your radiator on!

 

[muon]

Not even close. 5600X destroys the 3700X.

Good luck to those convinced on buying 8 core because in 5 years the 3700X will supposedly overtake the 5600X.

 

[XeNoNF50]

5600x all day

 

[Tutan]

Not even close. 5600X destroys the 3700X.

Only in single core and gaming at 1080P.
In multi core 3700x is still superior.
In 1440P gaming the difference is little.
In 4k gaming they are about the same.
Even in the video you posted he mentions these.

 

[muon]

Only in single core and gaming at 1080P.
In multi core 3700x is still superior.
In 1440P gaming the difference is little.
In 4k gaming they are about the same.
Even in the video you posted he mentions these.

Read the OP?

Why are you answering a different question? For gaming the 3700x is destroyed by the 5600x. Unless of course you play cinebench.

Who cares if the difference is little in 1440p and 4k gaming now? With that logic you might as well buy a 3600 instead of a 3700x/5600x. Or even a 10600K.

Also even if the margins are smaller the 5600x is still better than the 3700x at those resolutions.

I wouldn't buy a 6-core full stop.

Who'd want a gaming PC with less cores than the next-gen consoles? Yuck.

Completely debunked.

 

[Tutan]

Read the OP?

Why are you answering a different question? For gaming the 3700x is destroyed by the 5600x. Unless of course you play cinebench.

Who cares if the difference is little in 1440p and 4k gaming now? With that logic you might as well buy a 3600 instead of a 3700x/5600x. Or even a 10600K.

Also even if the margins are smaller the 5600x is still better than the 3700x at those resolutions.

I think you don’t understand how quote function works in message boards? it’s not q&a where you only answer the first post.
you post some FALSE claim,and I quoted that post and replied to that.
is any of what I said incorrect? show me?

You didn’t even watch the hardware unboxed video that you referenced in full,they basically confirmed what I said.

you just cherry picked 1080P single core part snd said “5600x destroys 3700x” and that’s simply not true.

 

[muon]

I think you don’t understand how quote function works in message boards? it’s not q&a where you only answer the first post.
you post some FALSE claim,and I quoted that post and replied to that.
is any of what I said incorrect? show me?

You didn’t even watch the hardware unboxed video that you referenced in full,they basically confirmed what I said.

you just cherry picked 1080P single core part snd said “5600x destroys 3700x” and that’s simply not true.

I dont think you understand how a forum works.

If you want to randomly discuss non-gaming performance which has nothing to do with this thread, go ahead but it isn't the point of this thread. Answering a different question to that asked is pointless.

The 5600X destroys the 3700x in gaming. I will stand by that statement.

There is a larger gap between the 3700x and 5600x, than there is between the 3300x and 3700x. Let that sink in.

1440p and 4k numbers weren't given, but we already know the 3900x/3950x actually bottlenecks the 3080/3090 at 1440p when compared to the 10900k.

 

[Tutan]

I dont think you understand how a forum works.

If you want to randomly discuss non-gaming performance which has nothing to do with this thread, go ahead but it isn't the point of this thread. Answering a different question to that asked is pointless.

The 5600X destroys the 3700x in gaming. I will stand by that statement.

Is 1440P and 4k non gaming to you?
It’s actually you who don’t understand how to post in a forum ,reference a video without watching it in full first.
you still haven’t answered,what was incorrect in my post?
you made a statement: “5600x destroys 3700x” that is false and you have been corrected.now move on and don’t embarrass yourself insisting on your mistake like a 12 years old.

 

[muon]

Is 1440P and 4k non gaming to you?
It’s actually you who don’t understand how to post in a forum ,reference a video without watching it in full first.
you still haven’t answered,what was incorrect in my post?
you made a statement: “5600x destroys 3700x” that is false and you have been corrected.now move on and don’t embarrass yourself insisting on your mistake like a 12 years old.

Where are the 1440p and 4k numbers in the video? You watched it right?

I'm not the one embarrassing myself.

HUB have done a good gaming CPU benchmark. You are clearly ignoring their advice.

You do not buy a 3700X instead of a 5600X for gaming. It is far worse.

Things are going to change from now on,with new consoles (which have same PC architecture) now having 8 cores,chances are new games will start to require 8 cores.

8 cores is the way too go.
some games like BF5 already use 8 cores even 12.
with new consoles being 8 core,newer games will start to require 8 cores.

What did HUB say about stupid comments like this?

They completely debunked it. He said it is almost definite that the 3700X will never overtake the 5600X.

I've just gone back through your posts in this thread. Your lack of knowledge is quite poor. Consoles won't be using 8 cores for gaming.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The Ryzen 5 5600X is 15% better in minimums than the Ryzen 7 3700X which is hardly destroying,and Tutan is correct,at 4K the GPU will be the limit,so the 1080p averages are not relevant for their usage habits. So if you have a Ryzen 7 3700X you still doing fine,and many on here suggested people buy the Ryzen 7 3700X over the faster Core i5 10600k,because its quite a well balanced CPU,especially if you want to do stuff such as game streaming,etc.

In fact if you watch the Hardware Unboxed video,Steve says the Ryzen 5 3600 is still a solid buy even if the Ryzen 5 5600X is faster,especially if you are running games at higher resolutions such as qHD,etc.

 

[muon]

The Ryzen 5 5600X is 15% better in minimums than the Ryzen 7 3700X which is hardly destroying,and Tutan is correct,at 4K the GPU will be the limit,so the 1080p averages are not relevant for their usage habits. So if you have a Ryzen 7 3700X you still doing fine,and many on here suggested people buy the Ryzen 7 3700X over the faster Core i5 10600k,because its quite a well balanced CPU,especially if you want to do stuff such as game streaming,etc.

In fact if you watch the Hardware Unboxed video,Steve says the Ryzen 5 3600 is still a solid buy even if the Ryzen 5 5600X is faster,especially if you are running games at higher resolutions such as qHD,etc.

3600 is a solid buy. Not disagreeing.

The OP is deciding whether to buy a 3700x or 5600x for gaming.

Not upgrading from a 3700x to a 5600x. So that is again answering a question different to that being asked.

Are you saying buying a 3700x instead of a 5600x for gaming is an okay decision?

 

[Relentless81]

I've watched pretty much every review of the 5600X now and for purely a gaming PC I wouldnt pick the 5800X or above over it, waste of money. The 5600X blows away the 3700X regardless of cores its all explained in the HUB video and others.

 

[muon]

I've watched pretty much every review of the 5600X now and for purely a gaming PC I wouldnt pick the 5800X or above over it, waste of money. The 5600X blows away the 3700X regardless of cores its all explained in the HUB video and others.

I think Linus put it quite well. If you are buying a 5800X then you are doing that for non-gaming reasons, in which case the 5900X is so close in value (better perf/$) you should get that.