Very nice for the price there.
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Ryzen 7 1700 vs i7 7700k for gaming
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Very nice for the price there.
Thanks Amd Matt - Managed to bag Ram cheap over a year ago - just never had a chance to use it. Loving my Ryzen 1700. I have read the reviews of the new Intel CPUs 8 core. Basically if i want another Gigaherz of potential speed it would have cost me an extra £300. Happy to have it all on a budget.
Over that window was the period games moved slightly away from pure IPC dependency to utilising additional threads a bit more - if that hadn't happened the original low res benchmarks would have been a better indicator.
I still think there is a lot of value in low res benchmarks but you need to look at the full picture from top to bottom as well.
I still think there is a lot of value in low res benchmarks but you need to look at the full picture from top to bottom as well.
I'll be honest, I've always been INTEL for my CPU's but I think AMD are going to nail INTEL over the next 12-18 months. I think my next upgrade will be in and around Zen2 and will deffo be AMD. Good to have some competition in CPU's again. It'll only benefit us customers.
Planet coaster is so awesome on my 1700. Uses all 16 threads. Such a well coded game, got huge parks with 3000 people in and its running maxed out at 3440x1440 4x AA and giving the CPU a good thrashing too
I bet is one of those games that even 16c/32t will be utilised nicely
Just joining the "oh, there's boards with better memory support coming through?" type thread that's occurring here...
I'm probably a month or 2 from upgrade, probably ryzen 7 at the moment.
What's the best board for playing nice with a good chip with a good IMC?
Was looking at 3200 cl14 ram but if higher speed and slacker timings on a newer board wins, will go there.
I'm probably a month or 2 from upgrade, probably ryzen 7 at the moment.
What's the best board for playing nice with a good chip with a good IMC?
Was looking at 3200 cl14 ram but if higher speed and slacker timings on a newer board wins, will go there.
If you plan to buy in 2 months, wait until then to make a decision about the boards. New ones inc and are better than the initial release ones.
See the new Strixx B350-F for example. It's performance is similar to the MSI Titanium, and far superior to it's bigger brother the CH6. At half the price.
And I haven't seen benchmarks yet of the new CH6 - Wifi, compared to the old one.
aye, saw those mentioned (the 2 asus launches) not seen much news on any others if anyone's any the wiser?
Interesting video and I hope devs start using the new architecture properly very quickly. But from my own experience of running an 1800x with 3ghz RAM for two weeks and a 7700k with the same 3ghz RAM the 7700k at gaming overall is far better for now at least in games that I've played.
Even going by afterburner frame times graphs the 7700k at 4k maxed out settings with 2x 1080 Ti's the frame times were quite a bit lower in some games and far more consistent.
I only game at 4k now and the difference between the two chips was quite noticeable sometimes.
I originally upgraded from a 4790k to the 1800x and the only reason I tried a 7700k because some games were running worse on the 1800x for me and this was on the same install and a clean install of windows 10.
For a quick test i just took out the 1800x and board, put the Z270 board and 7700k in and on the exact same windows install all my gaming issues had gone. Windows picked up the new hardware, straight into windows and I booted up a few games.
AMD has certainly given Intel a kick up the ass thankfully.
I have no hesitation trying out the 2nd Gen ryzen and hopefully AMD can optimise it better for single threaded performance, and hopefully devs would have had more time to optimise for AMD by then.
Thanks for the honesty, it's saving some of us clingining on to old hardware from spending money
The 4790k is still an amazing chip for gaming. I had no issues running 200+ processes in the background, quite a few chrome tabs open and even watching a 1080p/4k H264 video or 4k youtube video on the second screen while playing games maxed out at 4k on the main screen with no frame drops on either.
4790k is certainly a good chip for multitasking.
Going from an X58 or 2600k though to ryzen would be a huge upgrade.
4790k is certainly a good chip for multitasking.
Going from an X58 or 2600k though to ryzen would be a huge upgrade.
Hi All,
Without trying to steal the thread, I'm having a similar decision to make as original OP.. I can't make my mind between a Ryzen 1700 bundle and a 7600k bundle here on OC. I barely do anything else on my PC besides gaming so that would be the main reason for the upgrade.
I always was an Intel user and still happily use my little old 2500k. I am willing to change colour and try Ryzen if a) it is future proof; b) it will be quite easy to use without needing to mess with it indefinitely; c) will suite my ageing Corsair H100 AOI?
Both seem to be about the limit of what I can stretch to on my budget and I would like it to last at least 3-4 years. Any opinions would be welcome as up to Ryzen came out I had my mind completely settled on Intel. Now I am a bit at a loss. My current hardware is listed in my signature.
Thanks!
Without trying to steal the thread, I'm having a similar decision to make as original OP.. I can't make my mind between a Ryzen 1700 bundle and a 7600k bundle here on OC. I barely do anything else on my PC besides gaming so that would be the main reason for the upgrade.
I always was an Intel user and still happily use my little old 2500k. I am willing to change colour and try Ryzen if a) it is future proof; b) it will be quite easy to use without needing to mess with it indefinitely; c) will suite my ageing Corsair H100 AOI?
Both seem to be about the limit of what I can stretch to on my budget and I would like it to last at least 3-4 years. Any opinions would be welcome as up to Ryzen came out I had my mind completely settled on Intel. Now I am a bit at a loss. My current hardware is listed in my signature.
Thanks!
IMO buying an i5-7600K is madness right now. Even 4c/8t Intel CPUs get maxed out in some games, with Ryzen being at least on par in roughly half of last year's AAA games on average and minimum frame rates. It's older games or indie games that won't be optimised for the new platform that will suffer most. How long are you planning on keeping the new rig? If you plan to keep it for anything like as long as the i5-2500K has lasted you, there is no way I'd go 4c/4t or even 4c/8t right now.
Yeah, the 2500k lasted me a long while.. Around 6-7 years I think. Will have to strongly consider one of the Ryzen CPUs if they are more future proof. Thanks!
EDIT: I wonder how soon we will see more adoption of 5+ CPU cores. At the moments it's hardly an issue in my limited knowledge. I still don't see 16gb of Ram being widely adopted standard and 4gb of GPU memory is still more than most people have (if one looks at Steam hardware surveys), yet these forums considered it the minimum standard for a while. I guess it's the question of more casual or enthusiast user. I am still happy to game at 1080p
EDIT: I wonder how soon we will see more adoption of 5+ CPU cores. At the moments it's hardly an issue in my limited knowledge. I still don't see 16gb of Ram being widely adopted standard and 4gb of GPU memory is still more than most people have (if one looks at Steam hardware surveys), yet these forums considered it the minimum standard for a while. I guess it's the question of more casual or enthusiast user. I am still happy to game at 1080p
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just traded in my 4820k for a r7 1700. was gonna wait for threadripper but the latest price cuts made it to tempting, and it also meant i could put the money towards better mobo and ram (got the gaming 5 and team group dark pro 3200). yes they are certainly a bit more future proof than there intel counterparts with the 2 extra cores and am4 being supported till around 2020 i think i read somewhere.
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Yes it's a general user vs enthusiast thing. Also remember that Steam surveys include tonnes of laptops. If you're happy with 1080p and not convinced you need more than 4 cores as a "casual" user then I wouldn't bother upgrading from what you have at all. If you do though, going to a new 4c/4t chip seems like a huge waste of time. You might as well make an actual worthwhile upgrade.Yeah, the 2500k lasted me a long while.. Around 6-7 years I think. Will have to strongly consider one of the Ryzen CPUs if they are more future proof. Thanks!
EDIT: I wonder how soon we will see more adoption of 5+ CPU cores. At the moments it's hardly an issue in my limited knowledge. I still don't see 16gb of Ram being widely adopted standard and 4gb of GPU memory is still more than most people have (if one looks at Steam hardware surveys), yet these forums considered it the minimum standard for a while. I guess it's the question of more casual or enthusiast user. I am still happy to game at 1080p
Yeah it makes sense. The main reason why I want to upgrade is the fact that I can see my motherboard kicking the bucket soon (it is quite a middle-range mobo and it has been working overclocked GPU/CPU for quite a few years) and I want to benefit from new features in the motherboard (DDR4 for instance). My finances do not allow me to be on the cutting edge of hardware so I need to make sure my pound goes as far as possible. Decisions decisions!
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