Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

[Bencher]

I never mentioned anything about Intel in my post, I was talking about his bad take and representation of anything AMD. That's it.

This is the problem with this forum and this post in particular. People misunderstand a post as an attack on their favourite brand, in your case Intel. The only attack I was making was about people listening to anything that YTuber says when it comes to anything AMD.

Ι didn't take it as an attack on Intel, and I don't really care even if it was. My point is, instead of saying that the guy isn't really good at tuning any CPU regardless, you made it seem like he is only clueless when it comes to amd, so his results are favorable to intel, which is not really the case.

I fully admitted that the 7950x 3d is - overall - a better CPU than the 13900k. If I was buying right now I would most likely go for the 3d. So im not really biased like many people think.

 

[LtMatt]

Ι didn't take it as an attack on Intel, and I don't really care even if it was. My point is, instead of saying that the guy isn't really good at tuning any CPU regardless, you made it seem like he is only clueless when it comes to amd, so his results are favorable to intel, which is not really the case.

I didn't say the guy isn't really good at tuning any CPU though, you thought I said that.

I'll repeat what I actually said. "He’s a laughing stock amongst anyone with modicum of knowledge when it comes to tuning AMD CPUs/GPUs."

I don't think I could have been any clearer tbf.

If you say it's the same with Intel, that's fine I won't dispute it as I don't know any different as I don't use Intel CPUs.

 

[Deleted member 258511]

I never mentioned anything about Intel in my post, I was talking about his bad take and representation of anything AMD. That's it.

This is the problem with this forum and this post in particular. People misunderstand a post as an attack on their favourite brand, in your case Intel. The only attack I was making was about people listening to anything that YTuber says when it comes to anything AMD.

Oh boy, where do I start with this post. Knock it on the head please dude. I am not sure what is going on with you lately with your last few posts in this discussion, but leave the personal attacks and absurd claims of cyber bullying out of it please and stick to the topic.

But people should listen to you? Why? You are just as bad if not worse than him. You are the definition of an AMD fanboy.

How could anyone trust your findings on tests when you are biased?. That’s exactly what you say about Framechaser, what’s the difference?

You literally worked for AMD

 

[Bencher]

But people should listen to you? Why? You are just as bad if not worse than him. You are the definition of an AMD fanboy.

How could anyone trust your findings on tests when you are biased?. That’s exactly what you say about Framechaser, what’s the difference?

You literally worked for AMD

It's not about trusting anyone, I don't think framechasers numbers are wrong per se, I just think his tunning is questionable. At least matt knows what he is doing

 

[ZXSpekky48k]

Personally I really enjoy @LtMatt’s posts as being full of evidence (and he clearly takes considerable trouble and time to bring cold hard evidence for anyone to see) and he takes a positive approach to the sometimes ridiculous posts from people who read something elsewhere and post it here as incontrovertible fact to win daft argument points.

 

[Bencher]

The thing with framechasers is, he is making fun of steve and other reviewers for being clueless (and he is not wrong - steve can't even run intel on stock settings, ffs) but he himself isn't any better. As I've said before, when you pay him 500€ specifically to tune your rig for warzone 2 and he makes your 13900k perform worse than a 12900k, YIKES. I imagine he knows even less about AMD.

 

[Deleted member 258511]

It's not about trusting anyone, I don't think framechasers numbers are wrong per se, I just think his tunning is questionable. At least matt knows what he is doing

With AMD yes. Not Intel. However just like I wouldn’t trust a YouTuber who is getting a product for free and has a business relationship with a certain brand, I wouldn’t trust someone who is only interested in AMD and doesn’t give anything else a chance.

He is very good at what he does, and that’s making his favourite brand look better than it actually is.

 

[Bencher]

Personally I really enjoy @LtMatt’s posts as being full of evidence (and he clearly takes considerable trouble and time to bring cold hard evidence for anyone to see) and he takes a positive approach to the sometimes ridiculous posts from people who read something elsewhere and post it here as incontrovertible fact to win daft argument points.

The thing with matt, and I was like him in the past, is that his rig is so tuned that doesn't represent the normal average person. Say a guy asks "should I pair a 4080 with a 7600x (random combo, don't hang on the specifics), LTmatt might say "yes of course, the 7600x will push the 4080 to it's limits", but that might not be the case for the average joe that runs out of the box. Had the same thing happen to me a couple of months ago, someone asked if he should pair a 4090 with a 12900k for 1440p, I was like hell yeah and posted some videos from my rig, so he went ahead and the results were not as expected.

 

[LtMatt]

But people should listen to you? Why? You are just as bad if not worse than him. You are the definition of an AMD fanboy.

How could anyone trust your findings on tests when you are biased?. That’s exactly what you say about Framechaser, what’s the difference?

You literally worked for AMD

I never said anyone has to listen to me, however I'm not going around in Intel threads posting videos which make daft claims.

You even linked to a Reddit thread (here) because of the title and then admitted you didn't even read the thread in question. If you had bothered to read the thread, you wouldn't have linked to it in the first place as it didn't show what you wanted it to - eg the 7950X3D as having lots of problems because of the Frame Chasers videos you've been linking to.

I don't have any problem with you at all my man, just knock off this weird attitude you've developed in the last few pages of this discussion. It's tiresome for everyone to read it and for me to have to reply to you.

Personally I really enjoy @LtMatt’s posts as being full of evidence (and he clearly takes considerable trouble and time to bring cold hard evidence for anyone to see) and he takes a positive approach to the sometimes ridiculous posts from people who read something elsewhere and post it here as incontrovertible fact to win daft argument points.

Appreciate that dude.

The thing with matt, and I was like him in the past, is that his rig is so tuned that doesn't represent the normal average person. Say a guy asks "should I pair a 4080 with a 7600x (random combo, don't hang on the specifics), LTmatt might say "yes of course, the 7600x will push the 4080 to it's limits", but that might not be the case for the average joe that runs out of the box. Had the same thing happen to me a couple of months ago, someone asked if he should pair a 4090 with a 12900k for 1440p, I was like hell yeah and posted some videos from my rig, so he went ahead and the results were not as expected.

I'd never recommend a 6 core CPU to anyone with a 7900 XT/XTX / 4080/4090 these days, need 8 core minimum.

 

[Bencher]

I'd never recommend a 6 core CPU to anyone with a 7900 XT/XTX / 4080/4090 these days, need 8 core minimum.

Well yeah, but you get the point. If you look at the GPU forum there was a guy with a 12900k and a 4090 getting huge GPU bottlenecks. Good luck explaining to him what he needs to do to make his rig perform as it "should". Told him he needs to tune his ram (he had ddr4), so he went ahead and swapped to a ddr5 mobo + ram. I was like - oh well......

 

[Noxia]

The whole tech review sector is a joke. I genuinely don't know if there is anyone truly unbiased out there.
I'm sure most people don't care about brand tribalism, they just want to know what is objectively better.
These are not insignificant sums of money for these parts and it sucks people may make decisions based on tailored tests to suit an agenda and general lack of transparency.

 

[LtMatt]

Back on topic, with a 7950X3D driving it, a tuned 4090 is almost as fast as a tuned 7900 XTX in Warzone 2 at 1440P competitive settings. Seeing a new tier of performance vs what was capable on the 7950X.

 

[Sc00p007]

Upgraded from a 5950x, been solely playing Witcher 3 at 4k and am really pleased with the performance uplift so far. Feels a lot smoother with noticeably higher framerate.

Not sure what is causing it, but I had to turn the windows power plan setting to power saving to stop frame generation stutters. Didn't need to do that with my 5950x, but am also aware others had the same issue with the 5950x etc. Maybe the power plan will work for them too.

 

[henry hoov3r]

Personally I really enjoy @LtMatt’s posts as being full of evidence (and he clearly takes considerable trouble and time to bring cold hard evidence for anyone to see) and he takes a positive approach to the sometimes ridiculous posts from people who read something elsewhere and post it here as incontrovertible fact to win daft argument points.

Same. He’s helped me out with advice on a few occasions.

 

[Rilot]

Right, this is getting out of hand. Stop it now.
Any more and I'm just going to close the thread and section ban you all.

 

[Iron Man]

So far I have managed to play some cyberpunk and halo infinite on my new 7950x3D. Happy so far but I can’t really tell much of a difference from a 5800x3D. Will try Hogwarts legacy later and ac creed Valhalla later to put it through its paces. Looking forward to trying out Stellaris again and seeing if it will put all my 16 cores to work on that!

 

[Deleted member 258511]

So far I have managed to play some cyberpunk and halo infinite on my new 7950x3D. Happy so far but I can’t really tell much of a difference from a 5800x3D. Will try Hogwarts legacy later and ac creed Valhalla later to put it through its paces. Looking forward to trying out Stellaris again and seeing if it will put all my 16 cores to work on that!

The reason you aren’t seeing a difference at times is because the 5800x3D is still faster in some games. That literally was and still is the best CPU in terms of price to performance.

 

[uscool]

So far I have managed to play some cyberpunk and halo infinite on my new 7950x3D. Happy so far but I can’t really tell much of a difference from a 5800x3D. Will try Hogwarts legacy later and ac creed Valhalla later to put it through its paces. Looking forward to trying out Stellaris again and seeing if it will put all my 16 cores to work on that!

Maybe not looking at the FPS counters? They are usually compared at lower resolutions with the very best cards so looks nice in charts but in reality you most likely won't notice

 

[Deleted member 258511]

Been having an issue with my 7950x3D, this seemed to fix it. Just incase anyone else has a similar issue.

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

 

[RBImGuy]

So far I have managed to play some cyberpunk and halo infinite on my new 7950x3D. Happy so far but I can’t really tell much of a difference from a 5800x3D. Will try Hogwarts legacy later and ac creed Valhalla later to put it through its paces. Looking forward to trying out Stellaris again and seeing if it will put all my 16 cores to work on that!

You cant really feel the fps difference.
Meaning you can have 30 more fps and wont be able to note anything different.
The benefit of x3d is to remove the drop of fps a latency delay as that you can feel.
Once that isnt the case then your gaming experience feels the same.
smooth.

The x3d makes gaming better that Intel cant match