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Has there been any indication as to what time its going on sale tomorrow?
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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D
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I myself might go for 7700 for my new build and put money towards better GPU. If all games used 3d cache it would be a different story.
People seem to think 2pm but I’m not sure if that’s official or just based on previous releases.
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Yeah would be better if you game at 4K. Don't forget the next gen AMD chips are next year as well. Its easy to want a new shiny-shiny (talking from experience here) but there's so little benefit for us, it would be pointless relative to the extra money. +3 extra fps on one hand, wad of money on the other lol.
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They do, in that it is transparent to the game. Some games benefit more depending on their memory access patterns.
That's the usual time for gpus and cpus for years now.
I thought so, just wasn’t entirely certain. It will give them the whole morning to have the 5 units in stock pre packaged ready for shipment….!
Does this also apply to MMOs if you’re playing at 4K? I’m about to build my first gaming rig and some things I’m still unclear about. When people talk about the uplift MMOs get from the extra cache on the X3D chips, are the referring to sub-4k resolutions. If so, I’m going to save some money, get a 7700x, and possibly put the money saved towards going up a GPU tier to a 4090.
Agree, but for me gaming at 1440p I think putting money towards GPU is better choice. In future when price of CPU drops might be a good upgrade.
With the 7800x3d now out the other two looks like broken bad products. AMD should never again have Vcache on one ccd in a multi ccd chip. It comes across as trying to move higher end CPUs because they are selling so poorly with those core counts to date in the non Vcache variants. As for gaming, AMD advertises all 3 CPUs as gaming CPUs not multitasking or for working and the dual ccd models are just plain bad compared to the single ccd
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They did do a bad job with the 7900x3d and 7950x3d, but only on the gaming side of things. They very capable. Especially the 7900x3d is in the most strange situation, as its parking 6 cores, so you are left with 6 for gaming only.
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Of course now the 7950x3d’s will probably trickle into general availability and the 7800x3d’s will be back ordered for months…I think I'm sold. Yea, looking at the charts, the 7800X3D doesn't do any of the Photoshop or Blender stuff very well (relative). I would say that 90% of my time is gaming, the rest is light use, and occasional content-heavy workload. So for me, it's looking like the 7800X3D is the solution to the problems I didn't know I had!(Kinda glad now that the 7950X3Ds have been backordered for >1 month!)
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I think if you play @1440p+ high settings and 4k then a 7700 or even 7700x second hand for half the price of 7800x3d and get a better GPU is a wise choice tbh
It might work out well if the money saved from the CPU gets you to the next tier of graphics card and you don’t drop too much performance because of a CPU bottleneck.
Can't see how Intel could respond to the power usage thing.
Their P Cores are simply so huge and to be competitive they have to clock then as high as they have.
Irony is that those cores were - sort of - mobile first. That is, while Intel were stuck on Skylake versions because of their process nodes, the newer architecture did make it to mobile. Often in very limited quantities due to promised made to shareholders, but they saw releases.
The big problem with their massive cores on desktop is the clocks and hence the huge power consumption.
If Intel had the packaging technology, a massive cached P Cores only processor would be interesting, though.
I’ve got a 5800x3d and a 4090. Anyone think I should upgrade to a 7800x3d? I play on 4K. My thoughts are that I don’t need to and the performance improvement is negligible at that resolution.
I know I’ve got to bite the bullet and upgrade at some point btw.
I know I’ve got to bite the bullet and upgrade at some point btw.
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I'd say there's not much point right now if I were in your shoes.
When amd released the 5800x3d people moaned there was no higher core count version. They delivered a higher core count version this gen. What they did wrong was market them as gaming cpus as their obvious strength is in other areas.
I'm also sure they stated they tested vcache on multi ccd cpus internally and the results weren't much better than what they released with the 7950X3D/7900X3D vs the additional cost of adding vcache to the other ccds.
Just have to wait and see what comes next they'll obviously develop it further.
Wait until the 8000 series. The benefit of waiting with AM5 is that motherboard and RAM prices are only going one way. Seen a bunch of great deals on fast DDR5 lately. AM5 boards are still way too expensive though.
I get the feeling there's some scheduler bugs going on where it's maybe moving it off the main cores or something. That was kind of apparent from the reviews of the 7950x3d where they just disabled the second CCD to see potential 7800 perf. You'd probably have to compare ccd disabled 7950 to 7800 to get an exact out of the box performance comparison for the cached ccd. That all said as I said previously I'm of the opinion minor clock speed differences is probably not going to be that impactful regardless.