Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

[Tykey]

RTX 4090 & 53 Games: Core i9-13900K vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review

Intel's new 13900K offers amazing gaming performance, thanks to improvements to caches, IPC and higher operating frequencies. But is that enough to beat the 3DV Cache-powered AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D? What about platform cost?

www.techpowerup.com

Says there's almost no difference in fps between a 13900K and a 5800X3D in Cyberpunk.
Considering that (AMD claims) the 7000 X3D will be 10-25% faster than the 5800X3D I think the new X3D's will out perform the 13900K, even in Cyberpunk.

 

[Robert896r1]

@LtMatt if you wanted to share your HDZ benchmark data, my buddy did testing here recently: https://kingfaris.co.uk/blog/13900k-ram-oc-impact/horizonzerodawn We can compare the CPU FPS data. Be curious how much of a lead AMD still has here and see how X3D compares to your when it's out. He's on a 4090. All the settings details are on the page.

 

[alec]

the 7950x3d probably slightly have higher clocks on the cached cores to give it slight edge ?

Considering that 7950X3d has significantly lower TDP compared to 7950X, might actually be lower clocks.

 

[uscool]

Considering that 7950X3d has significantly lower TDP compared to 7950X, might actually be lower clocks.

I was more on about ccd with the cached cores on the 7950x3d they didnt mention the boost clocks for that, we know the 7800x3d will be 5ghz

 

[LtMatt]

@LtMatt if you wanted to share your HDZ benchmark data, my buddy did testing here recently: https://kingfaris.co.uk/blog/13900k-ram-oc-impact/horizonzerodawn We can compare the CPU FPS data. Be curious how much of a lead AMD still has here and see how X3D compares to your when it's out. He's on a 4090. All the settings details are on the page.

I dont really have any data Robert, however I can do a quick 720P run if you are interested.

 

[Robert896r1]

I dont really have any data Robert, however I can do a quick 720P run if you are interested.

Perhaps these 2 presets if you have time?

• 720p Favour Performance
• 1080p Favour Quality

 

[Poneros]

@stooeh Provided me with a save game file so here it is Tom's Diner on 7950X, 720P Ultra Ray Tracing preset but custom due to FSR disabled.

I actually get lower CPU utilisation in Toms diner than I did in the other clip, so I'm sure the developers could improve performance here with some engine optimisations. I was expecting this to use more CPU cycles not less. CPU usage dropped to 66% at one point and was in the high 60s/low 70s for most of the clip. In the previous area it was nigh on locked at 86% CPU usage with higher performance.

Thing to know about CPU % utilisation is that whenever it's high on a high core count CPU that usually just tells you there's a lot of asset decompression involved. That kind of multi-core usage is pretty much never because other aspects are brought into it - too many things are necessarily bound to one or two cores in the current way games can be designed. It going down at times concurrently with the fps also going down just indicates there's a bottleneck for a certain part of it, but which exactly is hard to say, it would require proper profiling tools. I imagine this will make for a nice comparison once the 3D chips arrive so we can see how much the extra cache can (if at all) alleviate that bottlenecking.

 

[Robert896r1]

Thing to know about CPU % utilisation is that whenever it's high on a high core count CPU that usually just tells you there's a lot of asset decompression involved. That kind of multi-core usage is pretty much never because other aspects are brought into it - too many things are necessarily bound to one or two cores in the current way games can be designed. It going down at times concurrently with the fps also going down just indicates there's a bottleneck for a certain part of it, but which exactly is hard to say, it would require proper profiling tools. I imagine this will make for a nice comparison once the 3D chips arrive so we can see how much the extra cache can (if at all) alleviate that bottlenecking.

If you’re on intel you can use vtune to breakout the pipeline in detail. It’s a great tool and we have used elsewhere to determine tuning aspects and scaling. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/tools/oneapi/vtune-profiler.html#gs.osd7fn

 

[Bencher]

RTX 4090 & 53 Games: Core i9-13900K vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review

Intel's new 13900K offers amazing gaming performance, thanks to improvements to caches, IPC and higher operating frequencies. But is that enough to beat the 3DV Cache-powered AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D? What about platform cost?

www.techpowerup.com

Says there's almost no difference in fps between a 13900K and a 5800X3D in Cyberpunk.
Considering that (AMD claims) the 7000 X3D will be 10-25% faster than the 5800X3D I think the new X3D's will out perform the 13900K, even in Cyberpunk.

Imagine how far reviews are from reality

 

[uscool]

RTX 4090 & 53 Games: Core i9-13900K vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review

Intel's new 13900K offers amazing gaming performance, thanks to improvements to caches, IPC and higher operating frequencies. But is that enough to beat the 3DV Cache-powered AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D? What about platform cost?

www.techpowerup.com

Says there's almost no difference in fps between a 13900K and a 5800X3D in Cyberpunk.
Considering that (AMD claims) the 7000 X3D will be 10-25% faster than the 5800X3D I think the new X3D's will out perform the 13900K, even in Cyberpunk.

You'll be told intel wasnt tuned , wasnt run at 720p and for cyberpunk they didnt go to toms diner at a set time

 

[Bencher]

You'll be told intel wasnt tuned , wasnt run at 720p and for cyberpunk they didnt go to toms diner at a set time

But we had users here with a 3d showing it struggled to go above 50 fps. Why are you ignoring those results, i wonder

I guess no amount of evidence will convince a biased individual.

 

[uscool]

But we had users here with a 3d showing it struggled to go above 50 fps. Why are you ignoring those results, i wonder

I guess no amount of evidence will convince a biased individual.

fair enough if its faster its faster but I have no interest in that game
show me results with cod and battlefield with lows etc that would interest me more

 

[Bencher]

fair enough if its faster its faster but I have no interest in that game
show me results with cod and battlefield with lows etc that would interest me more

But you made 3 posts already with excuses which is weird to me.

I have cod if someone is interested with the 3d to make some comparisons, in something like warzone 2?

 

[LtMatt]

Leave me out of it Lol. I’m doing Horizon Zero Dawn for Robert then I’m out until I get VCache.

 

[LtMatt]

@LtMatt if you wanted to share your HDZ benchmark data, my buddy did testing here recently: https://kingfaris.co.uk/blog/13900k-ram-oc-impact/horizonzerodawn We can compare the CPU FPS data. Be curious how much of a lead AMD still has here and see how X3D compares to your when it's out. He's on a 4090. All the settings details are on the page.

Perhaps these 2 presets if you have time?

• 720p Favour Performance
• 1080p Favour Quality

7950X SMT OFF (not tested SMT On)
7900 XTX Nitro Stock

720P Favour Performance

Spoiler

1080P Favour Quality

Spoiler

Vs those results you linked

13900K 720P Favour Performance

Spoiler

13900K 1080P Favour Quality

Spoiler

 

[DFroN]

It’s February why doesn’t my motherboard have a 7800X3D in it yet.

 

[delta0]

Considering that 7950X3d has significantly lower TDP compared to 7950X, might actually be lower clocks.

The X3D side will have the lower clock but the other side should have the same 5.7 GHz clock.

 

[Robert896r1]

@LtMatt thanks a ton! i'll get some 13900k + DDR5 benches added to that mix so have a full roundup for comparing with X3D variants. Good stuff!

 

[LtMatt]

You can be sure I will properly tune my 7950X3D and compare it to the 7950X results I've posted here men.

 

[john_smith]

It’s February why doesn’t my motherboard have a 7800X3D in it yet.

I wish they would release them so I can buy it or an intel 13th gen.