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Ryzen console i've been wishing for
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I am really interested in this, I kind of assumed there was a reason x86 cores didn't use GDDR memory, so is this going to be a really good graphics APU and a poor CPU one?
24 Vega cores with gddr5 is going to be a great little APU, I would guess 3 times the graphics capability of the 2400g?
I am sure someone will get hold of one soon enough to test.
This is all at 12nm, a semi custom 7nm APU could easily have 36 CUs clocking higher. And much higher still for the PS5 etc.
There had been rumours of AMD making orders for GDDR, I wonder if it was all for this or if they have anything else in the works.
24 Vega cores with gddr5 is going to be a great little APU, I would guess 3 times the graphics capability of the 2400g?
I am sure someone will get hold of one soon enough to test.
This is all at 12nm, a semi custom 7nm APU could easily have 36 CUs clocking higher. And much higher still for the PS5 etc.
There had been rumours of AMD making orders for GDDR, I wonder if it was all for this or if they have anything else in the works.
Why is going to be poor CPU? On the contrary. The extra bandwidth and speed of the GDDR5 will improve the Zen performance.
Don't forget of how the Infinity Fabric works.
If GDDR5 is better than DDR4 for CPU's and AMD can make it work - why are we not seeing PC's with GDDR memory normally then?
I have no clue - I just assumed there was a good reason, other than perhaps price, that we were using the DDR memory standard for CPU's.
I have no clue - I just assumed there was a good reason, other than perhaps price, that we were using the DDR memory standard for CPU's.
The problem would be setting a standard and then motherboard and memory manufactures to get behind the idea.
14nm already allows for 8 CPU cores and 44 CU's at sub 150watts. AMD's 7nm APU's will probably be very potent.
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gddr 6... next year.... flying!
12-16Gbps.....
12-16Gbps.....
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GDDR5 has higher latency but higher bandwidth, for small tasks that a computer does normally it will minorly slow down the cpu compared to DDR4. Did big tasks etc with lots of memory bandwidth, such as games the DDR4 chokes the GPU as it can't deliver enough bandwidth. Best of both worlds for gamins seems to be GDDR5 as seen in the Xbox one X and ps4/ps4 pro.
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Looks pretty good !
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Pretty much. It'd be revolutionary if games were actually tailored to it as a third home console, it'd spank the PS4 Pro and 1X in terms of framerate due to the radically improved CPU.
But it seems to be a mini PC right now - still a really cool and interesting technical achievement considering the APU potential - but it's still just a powerful mini PC, sort of like just a more advanced concept of the Alienware Alpha builds (tiny, but had conventional CPU with soldered GPU, not APU).
Console players won't care about it really, most PC gamers probably won't care all that much either. It's just another niche, albeit fascinating, product.
Problem you have is a console suits people because everyone has the same controller and so it's evenly matched and tailored for ease of use sat on a sofa. When you try to make a mini pc that shares pc games, you're generally up against keyboard and mouse players so you end up at a massive disadvantage.
