Poll: Sack Race 2014/15

Who's getting it?

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Andybtsn said:
Wut? We have more red cards this season than shots on target, every game we've been appalling, the diamond doesn't work and he had no tactical nous to change anything! Tonge, Murphy, Norris and Austin are League 1 material unfortunately.
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I was implying that with the same midfield we would get no where. When Sloth was playing with Cook, Bianchi and Mowatt we looked a much better unit in midfield. Sloth does look good and I am hoping that Adryan is even better. We are not playing hoof ball like under Warnock and McDermott that is why Smith has gone.
Hopefully Quieroz is coming in but something tells me he will be too expensive.
 
Russell Slade is hanging on by a thread at Leyton Orient, it sounds like if they don't win mid-week he'll be sacked.

Considering the job he has done there and almost getting them promoted to the Championship last season you'd think they'd give him a bit more time to turn things around. They over achieved last season imo so if promotion is now the new benchmark for the club they'll be swapping and changing managers for a long time I reckon.
 
Aye, been confounded with Aston Villa, not seen any of their games, but certainly the stats from the Liverpool game didn't look good for AV.
 
The stats had no real reflection on the game today. They were worth the result today.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with Pardew. He's been on the brink for over a season now but it seems to me that as long as he keeps Newcastle safe then Ashley's happy to leave him there to take the flack from the supporters.
 
I thought someone(Charlie Nicholas I thnk) made a good point on Soccer Saturday today, that the Newcastle fans are bit harsh on Pardew because he is the only real outlet they have now as they have learned that it is futile to rage against Ashley. Sure, he isn't the best manager around, but he has put a decent squad together there and doesn't do too bad imo.
 
Pighardia said:
I thought someone(Charlie Nicholas I thnk) made a good point on Soccer Saturday today, that the Newcastle fans are bit harsh on Pardew because he is the only real outlet they have now as they have learned that it is futile to rage against Ashley. Sure, he isn't the best manager around, but he has put a decent squad together there and doesn't do too bad imo.
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Not sure about that, their run basically since they sold Cabaye in the January transfer window has been absolutely terrible, from a quick browse of Wikipedia it goes :

Played : 20
W/D/L : 4 / 3 / 13 (15 pts)
Scored : 11
Conceded : 40

Relegation form that :o
 
Put a good squad together... Our senior centre-backs are:

Fab Coloccini
Mike Williamson
Steven Taylor

I actually have no great problem with Ashley - at least, I don't hate him like most other fans seem to. Not only did he buy up our debt when he came in, I don't mind him running the club as a business (we're in profit) and, while it can be frustrating, in a world where Shane Long goes for £12m I welcome his caution in the transfer market. He has certainly made some mistakes but he is a net positive imo.

Pardew, on the other hand, has consistently shown himself to be a complete muppet. He did well in 2012/13 when everything was going our way - we had no serious injuries, our signings settled in immediately, we had strikers who could turn a half-chance into a goal with consistency. Some of the goals Cisse scored were just insane. Sure, Pardew can take some credit for that season, but he did have everything going for him. Since then things have gone back to normal - injuries, suspensions, loss of form, etc. Pardew has been incapable of dealing with it. He can put players on the pitch and hope for some individual magic but he can't set them up as a team, as a well-organised tactical unit. Based on my extensive research I have concluded that he has three default 'tactics':

Defend.
Pump them up!
???

Defending is for against top teams. Men behind the ball etc. For most managers, the men behind the ball are drilled, organised, and disciplined and frustrate their more gifted opponents through sheer hard work and determination. For Pardew, the success of this tactic ultimately depends more on Krul having a good game than on being a well organised and disciplined unit. If Krul has an off-day or just an average day, we lose heavily.

Pump them up! is mainly for Sunderland matches, but sometimes also for home matches against top teams. He gets the team so hyped that they try to attack but panic in the final third and lose all defensive discipline at the back. But at least 'we was passionate'.

??? is for every other game. It seems to involve neither attacking nor defending. There is no shape, no movement, no decisiveness, no fluency. The classic excuse is 'we was tired,' but the performance only looks laboured because no one knows what they are doing. If you see Gouffran pick the ball up in defensive midfield while there are no black-and-white shirts within 25 yards of Riviere, you're watching the ??? tactic at work.

So no, I do not want Pardew out because it is futile to rage against Ashley. I do not want him out because he is not a Geordie (neither am I). I do not want him out because he doesn't 'care' about the club. I want him out because he is a clueless ****.
 
I agree about Pardew :-) However I have to disagree about Ashley. Yes the club is profitable but all the enjoyment and hope has been sucked out of supporting the club. We don't want to win a cup, we only want to survive in the premier league. We don't want players like Hatem Ben Arfa who get the fans excited, we want players who run until they drop.
 
Pardew selects the team that plays in cup matches and by all accounts it was Pardew's falling out with Ben Arfa that pushed him out. Cabella is an exciting player - it isn't Ashley who decides how to play him.

I'm sure Ashley would love for us to be a Champion's League club - that's where the money is. But lets be honest, we're not going to consistently compete for the top four any time soon. We can't match the spending power of Chelsea or United or City. And if we did try we'd end up a financial basket case full of random fading stars like QPR.

What we should be doing at the moment is assembling a squad that can challenge for the Europa League spots. And while a club like ours is always going to struggle to hang on to a Cabaye or a Remy, we did bring in a lot of players over the summer. We have a decent squad (except at CB) but not a manager that can get the best out of it.
 
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Last year the official expectation was supposedly top 10 at least. This year it is presumably a bit higher given the transfer activity.

As I said above, I obviously don't expect us to be challenging for the Champion's League. But we should be aiming to challenge for the Europa League spots.

Whatever the aim is - even if it is just survival - our 2014 form hasn't been good enough to achieve it.
 
You were impressed by our transfer activity? We need a striker and at least one centre half. I can't see where we will score enough goals to stay up, especially with the number we will concede.
 
I didn't say that I was impressed by our transfer activity (although we did have a decent window, bar the shocking decision to let Yanga-Mbiwa go without replacing him). I meant that the club's objectives will presumably be a little higher due to our transfer activity. We spent around £30m this summer - Ashley will expect something to show for it.
 
Pighardia said:
I thought someone(Charlie Nicholas I thnk) made a good point on Soccer Saturday today, that the Newcastle fans are bit harsh on Pardew because he is the only real outlet they have now as they have learned that it is futile to rage against Ashley. Sure, he isn't the best manager around, but he has put a decent squad together there and doesn't do too bad imo.
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What a load of blue waffle that is.
 
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