Samsung Galaxy S... highest spec Android phone released... also with QWERTY!

Skyfall said:
I'd like to agree with you but I can't really because that argument comes in the same kind of logic that more megapixels = better camera.

Sure it is nice to have the option of a flash, I can't argue with that, but there are plenty of phones out there with flash that would take much worse pictures than some phones without flash.

I'm not saying that people are wrong to like flash on phones, I'm just saying that to discount the most powerful feature rich android phone to come to the UK because it doesn't have a flash on the camera is a little strange.

Also I've been taking night indoor photos with no flash for years and they come out ok.
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With your phone? I doubt that very much tbh. I am very impulsive and just like to randomly snap things. Even silly antics in a pub. I can't be bothered with poses ect and do not carry a real camera with me. No flash would not work in this scenario with a phone due to the exposure times and grainyness like I have already mentioned.

Its my preference above having a graphics chip for games that don't exist on Android yet. When they do I will no doubt be looking at more powerful phones anyway.
 
Hooa said:
With your phone? I doubt that very much tbh.
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With phones from 2004. I also remember the Viewty taking good night time shots.

Take this photo for instance, there is no way that flash would have made this photo better, it wold have probably ruined it beyond all recognition:

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Taken on the LG Viewty in 2007.
 
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That is the complete opposite of what I was talking about. That is a near perfectly still shot and whilst it is indeed low light, its nothing like my local pubs.

I have had my k850i in the garden at night when we have had bonfires ect and it was simply unusable without the flash on. I am talking from my own experience with ones that at the times were always billed as camera phones. Sure I could take a pictures of random still objects in the low light but not any silly antics with friends.
 
haha I was wondering that too whilst looking at the glasses but was not going to argue the odds about your own picture.

Honestly I know you think my stance is a bit lame but its also why I thought the N8 looks so appealing to me. I know it won't be as powerful as your phones and it won't have android but it will do well what I will use it most for :)

At the very least I will keep the desire for a while longer (only had it a week) and convince the GF to get the N8 :D
 
Either way I think we've gone a bit off topic. I'll concede that it's your choice at the end of the day and you make some valid points. Still not sure if I'll get a Gakaxy S though... hmmmmm
 
I hate that I have got the phone bug tbh. I never upgraded for years and now I am looking at every phone going. I think it happens in cycles;

mobile phones, consoles, cars, Paintball, PCs, Sound systems and now I am back at mobile phones again! Argghh need to save for more constructive things :D
 
Hooa said:
I hate that I have got the phone bug tbh. I never upgraded for years and now I am looking at every phone going. I think it happens in cycles;

mobile phones, consoles, cars, Paintball, PCs, Sound systems and now I am back at mobile phones again! Argghh need to save for more constructive things :D
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I'm exactly the same.

Robboftw said:
Skyfall, perving around under the table there I see ;) :p
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:D
 
Does it have to look so much like an iPhone? All it does is give apple fans ammunition to accuse our amazing new phone of being a second rate iPhone copy. They should have been more individualistic when designing this phone. All Samsung phones are hideous though :(
 
i keep hearing Samsungs support being brought up here, but i'd just like to highlight how HTC treats the users of their flagship phones. The Hero was top dog for a long while, and it took just under a year for them to release an update to bring the Hero off Android 1.5... nice.
 
GeX said:
i keep hearing Samsungs support being brought up here, but i'd just like to highlight how HTC treats the users of their flagship phones. The Hero was top dog for a long while, and it took just under a year for them to release an update to bring the Hero off Android 1.5... nice.
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Phone, The Hero is the only phone HTC failed to update as planned and they even admitted it and promised change. I suggest you read the email response a user on this forum got in the Desire thread about future updates to HTC handsets.

At least HTC have admitted to there being a problem in the Hero's case and that it is being addressed from here onwards and at least they are replying to customer messages in an informative manner.

I'd choose a HTC handset over a Samsung one any day either from my own experience with Samsung phone build quality and their GUI implementations.
 
The Hero is the only HTC phone I have owned, so it's perfectly fair for me to judge the customer service experience with HTC based on this one phone.

(actually, i'm lying i owned an HTC Tattoo also.. but i don't really count that)

It wasn't really my point though, the Hero lacked any offical updates for a year and it wasn't the end of the world. The dev communitiy responded, and consdering the sources for the Galaxy S are already out - I can see this being the same deal with this phone.

For me it's just like the flash issue, ie not a deal breaker in the slightest.

Build quality on the other hand... this is why i'm itching for my local vodafone store to get one in so i can have a proper mess around with one. My OH has an older Samsung, and that has faired well to years of abuse.
 
Skyfall said:
I'd like to agree with you but I can't really because that argument comes in the same kind of logic that more megapixels = better camera.
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That's just the angle you're interpreting it with... and is another completely seperate argument.

Sure it is nice to have the option of a flash, I can't argue with that, but there are plenty of phones out there with flash that would take much worse pictures than some phones without flash.
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Yes, if the camera is **** then the camera is ****, no flash will change that. However a flash is a desirable addition for low light shooting, even on **** cameras.

I'm not saying that people are wrong to like flash on phones, I'm just saying that to discount the most powerful feature rich android phone to come to the UK because it doesn't have a flash on the camera is a little strange.
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I wasn't discounting it...

Also I've been taking night indoor photos with no flash for years and they come out ok.
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Care to post a couple of samples? :)
 
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