Samsung Galaxy S25 Family Thread

This is a strange one. I bought one of these Crucial USB-C to USB-A adapters back in December 2022...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08FSDMVNP?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_3&th=1

Was using it no problem with my Samsung Galaxy A34 to connect its USB-C plug into the USB-A port on the front of my PC case to transfer files to and from it.

Bought the S25 and noticed that it only works when plugged in one way i.e. if you plug it in one way nothing happens, but if you plug it in the other way the PC recognises the phone and you can transfer files to it.

So I bought another one from Kenable because I want to leave one in my car for Android Auto. I bought this one...

https://www.kenable.co.uk/en/usb-cables-adapters/usb-type-c-cables/usb-c-adapters/

Tried this one today and now it works no matter which way you connect the cable. Strange...
 
david25 said:
Thanks for the feedback, I was looking at this.

Maybe I'll try an expensive aramid one (I want something slim and light)
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If you want slim and light to protect against scratches and minor bumps you really don't need expensive. Something like the £10 thing I bought off amazon will do it.

If you want slim and light and proper proven protection and don't mind spending money then I'd personally suggest Mous who do an Aramid one, a million years ago I was fairly close as they were getting set up and the product was very impressive.. I spend some time bowling an iPhone 6S around an office/lobbing it down stairs etc and it was flawless. Some actual science in that.

I'd just caution against a mix of the 2.. expensive and not a recognised brand etc because to be frank even the Mous ones probably cost them less than $5 to make but at least you've got some proper testing behind it.

Some of the pricing of random named 3rd part stuff on Amazon is lols.
 
nlel1975 said:
Well I went for a drive and as expected once I left the underground car park it showed the maps. Now just got to setup my wireless dongle.
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Well I initially had problems getting my Motorola MA1 wireless adapter working despite factory restoring the cars head unit and pairing it with the S25 over Bluetooth. I then plugged in the S25 to the USB port and after getting Android Auto working that way I tried to setup the Motorola MA1.

I successfully paired it with my phone over Bluetooth but the head unit wouldn't prompt me to start Android Auto. So I was thinking I'd have to use Android Auto wired and so bought another USB-C to USB-A adapter to keep in car. One good thing about the new adapter is it works properly wheras my Crucial one would only work when connected one way.

Anyway I thought I'd have another go at connecting the Motorola MA1 so I plugged it back into the cars USB and had my phone in my pocket, this time it started prompting me to start Android Auto. Success at last!

Hope that's it now.
 
here2018 said:
I wonder what happened to the rumoured 24Gb update?
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I read it was mis reported! Apparently the initial os takes up 24gb (if you were looking to download it) and not that an update was coming of 24gb, somewhere along the lines wires got crossed and it was being reported 24gb update was coming buy afterwards corrected.
 
Kenai said:
As I understood that proposal, it was for batteries to be replaceable with 'commercially available' tools, rather than proprietary tools, not meant to be glued in etc.

I don't think you'll see many manufacturers return to the principle of a battery that can be changed by simply popping the back cover off, take one out, drop one in...

As an example, this would count as 'user replaceable battery' under the EU legislation set to arrive in 2027 as I understand it - https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Nokia+G22+Battery+Replacement/157502
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You understood it wrong then as it states.

"batteries should be replaceable with no tool, a tool or set of tools that is supplied with the product or spare part, or basic tools." "And spare parts should be available for up to seven years after a phone’s release," and most importantly, “the process for replacement shall be able to be carried out by a layman.”
 
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Journey said:
You understood it wrong then as it states.

"batteries should be replaceable with no tool, a tool or set of tools that is supplied with the product or spare part, or basic tools." "And spare parts should be available for up to seven years after a phone’s release," and most importantly, “the process for replacement shall be able to be carried out by a layman.”
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Lot of wiggle room in there for the manufacturer to supply tools with a part (charging extra of course ;) ) and then argue the definition of a layman.

Im not saying this is what they'll do...

But this is what they'll do.
 
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Distracted said:
Lot of wiggle room in there for the manufacturer to supply tools with a part (charging extra of course ;) ) and then argue the definition of a layman.

Im not saying this is what they'll do...

But this is what they'll do.
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Oh I am sure some of them will try it on, but the the definition in the proposal has already been set for layman/layperson. "‘layman’ means a person without any specific repair experience or related qualifications;"

Basically you need to be able to change it with a tool that everyone know what it is, how to use it, its with the device/part or you'll have one laying around or you can get it from the most basic DIY store.
The goal is to be able to make them changeable by actual users of devices, for 99% of the people. So if you have to pry your screen off with a spudger, and a sucker thingy, and remove use once glue that leaves behind more residue than Slimer from Ghostbusters, then it won't pass muster.

It's gonna be great, and the manufactures that try and play silly beggars will be punished by the people buying since they'll see other devices that are easier to use/replace and judge accordingly, unless you of course an Apply user, in which case you'll argue that they should make it as expensive and hard as possible, and then 3 years later they'll say they are brave for making a replaceable battery and everyone will cheer them for being world leaders.
 
Journey said:
Oh I am sure some of them will try it on, but the the definition in the proposal has already been set for layman/layperson. "‘layman’ means a person without any specific repair experience or related qualifications;"

Basically you need to be able to change it with a tool that everyone know what it is, how to use it, its with the device/part or you'll have one laying around or you can get it from the most basic DIY store.
The goal is to be able to make them changeable by actual users of devices, for 99% of the people. So if you have to pry your screen off with a spudger, and a sucker thingy, and remove use once glue that leaves behind more residue than Slimer from Ghostbusters, then it won't pass muster.

It's gonna be great, and the manufactures that try and play silly beggars will be punished by the people buying since they'll see other devices that are easier to use/replace and judge accordingly, unless you of course an Apply user, in which case you'll argue that they should make it as expensive and hard as possible, and then 3 years later they'll say they are brave for making a replaceable battery and everyone will cheer them for being world leaders.
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I think you are being wildly optimistic.

I also think you are wrong. I think the S25Ultra in its current incarnation satisfies all the requirements sans availabilty of spare parts.

I hope you are right.
 
Distracted said:
I think you are being wildly optimistic.
I hope you are right.
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Distracted said:
I think you are being wildly optimistic.

I also think you are wrong. I think the S25Ultra in its current incarnation satisfies all the requirements sans availabilty of spare parts.

I hope you are right.
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The S25 Ultra doesn't - as it still has 'use once' glue to access the back of the phone, and you need to apply heat to it according the repair manual

Video here.



It is much better, and you can tell they are planning to get it right in the next generation or two ready for 2027.
 
Journey said:
The S25 Ultra doesn't - as it still has 'use once' glue to access the back of the phone, and you need to apply heat to it according the repair manual

Video here.



It is much better, and you can tell they are planning to get it right in the next generation or two ready for 2027.
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That video is what makes me think the S25U is already compliant. In that video they remove the back panel with no heat or solvent, as the legislation states.


I see one of three things happening going forward.

The phone is redesigned and adhesive dissappears.
Very unlikely.

The phone design stays the same. The adhesive (pre applied to a replacement back panel or supplied as a shaped tape) is made available as part of a battery upgrade/repair kit. Possibly/probably with a replacement backplate.
Very likely.

The phones are exempt on the technicality that they are frequently splashed or submerged.
The nuclear option that makes option two seem reasonable/acceptable.
 
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Journey said:
You understood it wrong then as it states.

"batteries should be replaceable with no tool, a tool or set of tools that is supplied with the product or spare part, or basic tools." "And spare parts should be available for up to seven years after a phone’s release," and most importantly, “the process for replacement shall be able to be carried out by a layman.”
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You're going to be very disappointed come 2027 if you're expecting to be able to carry around a spare battery and do a quick 30s swap over at lunchtime as your initial comment about charge times suggests.

It's all about being able to replace a degraded battery on an old device, hence 'basic tools' like the little plastic pry picks in the G22 guide I linked. That process can be completed entirely with simple pry tools, tweezers, a small screwdriver and your fingers, I could have all of those from Amazon by tomorrow morning. The non replaceable adhesive strips for the motherboard would probably need to go but the rest of that process is easily completed by a layperson.

Caring how fast phones can charge will still be a thing after this legislation, a mid day battery swap is not on the cards I'm absolutely sure.
 
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