Samsung Galaxy S25 Family Thread

[matt100]

That's 100% right.

A layperson plus readily available tools can still easily mean a heatgun, pry tool and t6 screwdriver.

Incidentally.. just like the whining about the Bluetooth s pen and removable storage and 3.5mm jacks etc.. the market has spoken, it doesn't care.

And the same is true for hot swappable batteries, devices exist with that. Nobody buys them. What people want it turns out is thin very waterproof devices.

I can say from very personal experience that Samsung is not imposing an ideology, they make what the market wants, if the market wanted swappable batteries they'd make it in a heartbeat.

 

[Journey]

You're going to be very disappointed come 2027 if you're expecting to be able to carry around a spare battery and do a quick 30s swap over at lunchtime as your initial comment about charge times suggests.

It's all about being able to replace a degraded battery on an old device, hence 'basic tools' like the little plastic pry picks in the G22 guide I linked. That process can be completed entirely with simple pry tools, tweezers, a small screwdriver and your fingers, I could have all of those from Amazon by tomorrow morning. The non replaceable adhesive strips for the motherboard would probably need to go but the rest of that process is easily completed by a layperson.

Caring how fast phones can charge will still be a thing after this legislation, a mid day battery swap is not on the cards I'm absolutely sure.

See it is this sort of thinking where you are happy with the status quo that means we never progress. I understand that the devices that are going to be out aren't going to be instantly prefect, but what you want is to make people demand it be easier, by making that one of the reason they buy the phone in the first place.
The amount of unnecessary waste we create on this planet due to making things 'better' is so bad it is hysterical, there is nothing better about a phone with a battery that cannot be easily, or almost instantly swapped, one of the main reasons that charging speed matters is due to the fact you cannot accomplish this, heck people carry around spare batteries already, they are called power banks, and that fixed a problem we created in the first place.

The already make a device called the XCover6 Pro which is IP68 rated with a swappable battery, and they could easily make it thinner that 9.9mm if they didn't make it bomb proof for drops (Iphone 16 Pro is 8.25mm).

If people want planned obsolesce they are idiots, they they want to fork over nearly £100 to have a £5 battery replaced, they are idiots, if they think it is Ok to make things as hard to repair as possible they are idiots. It hilarious like reading about people who defend Nvidia or AMD like they are friends, they are not they want your money, more of it and more regularly.

 

[Kenai]

See it is this sort of thinking where you are happy with the status quo that means we never progress.

You seem to have assumed what I'm "happy with" when I've made absolutely no comment to that effect, all I've said is that the legislation you're talking about won't force manufacturers to provide the instantly swappable battery tech you were hoping for.

 

[Journey]

You seem to have assumed what I'm "happy with" when I've made absolutely no comment to that effect, all I've said is that the legislation you're talking about won't force manufacturers to provide the instantly swappable battery tech you were hoping for.

Apologies then, but there seems to be loads of people who just what to poo all over progress, rather than calling out idiocy. Not sure what you mean about the 'swappable battery tech' though since its not really something inventing, just applying.

 

[Kenai]

Not sure what you mean about the 'swappable battery tech' though since its not really something inventing, just applying.

What I mean is that manufacturers will not be forced to provide the sort of swappable battery in the XCover6 by the legislation you're talking about.

At best it'll force them to build phones more like the G22 where it's not all bonded and glued, at worst nothing will change because they'll drag out legal arguments about waterproofing and whatever other creative loopholes they can find.

I wouldn't bother buying any phone until 2027, when user replaceable batteries will be back. Then who cares how fast it charges as you can have a couple ready to go if you want.

This scenario of swapping batteries during the day will still only be the realms of a handful of models (like the XCover6) that sell it as a feature, it won't be a requirement of all phones.

 

[matt100]

People who think a sensible rule can only be followed the way they think it should be followed are also idiots.

It's simply an extension of the right to repair and pushing against planned or unplanned obsolescence. That's great.

It doesn't mean got swappable batteries are making a comeback. I don't get why this is so hard to grasp.

 

[here2018]

Another Drop Test -

 

[$anch3z]

Is anyone else experiencing random problems with one ui7? I did have aod with now brief etc but now nothing, even with something playing from Spotify. The so called ai is utter garbage

 

[matt100]

No issues but right now I wouldn't call the briefing exactly useful right now but I'm not sure I'd call it garbage either.

At least it's not fabricating news articles like apple "intelligence"