Samsung sneaks out snazzy 3G iPhone rival... the Omnia.

LeperousDust · 16 Jun 2008 at 03:13

Richdog said:
I found an awesome little vid on Youtube of the Omnia, showing in detail the interface etc. I have to say for a WM device this looks VERY responsive...

That's VERY responsive =/ Jesus, you WinMo guys don't expect much then. I watched him tap close multiple time on quite a few apps loaded until they did as theyre told. That is not responsive in my books

Ray the browser looks to be maybe Opera mobile 9.5 which has been out with a few mobiles for a while

Richdog · 16 Jun 2008 at 07:02

LeperousDust said:
That's VERY responsive =/ Jesus, you WinMo guys don't expect much then. I watched him tap close multiple time on quite a few apps loaded until they did as theyre told. That is not responsive in my books

Ray the browser looks to be maybe Opera mobile 9.5 which has been out with a few mobiles for a while

Very responsive for a WM device I meant. I'll gladly sacrifice a few milliseconds of responsiveness for a phone which actually does useful things.

My friend has an iPhone and its great to look at and browse on but that's about it imo. WM, for its faults, is about 1000x more versatile. And now that Apple have castrated 3rd party installer apps in their new completely uninspiring iPhone, it's just not a valid option for me. Plus I use phone cameras a lot for off the cuff photo and video recording (my N82 sees a scary amount of use) and the iPhone effort is nothing short of pathetic, whereas the Omnia looks very competent in that department.

It's all about balance and trade-offs, and unfortunately the iPhone does not suit me as a user in its current state.

LeperousDust · 16 Jun 2008 at 12:41

You use an N82, so you must understand there doesnt need to be a trade off between response and OS ability. WinMo is just full of fluff. This phone has excellent potential but really is let down by WM. I used to be a fan years ago, but after using symbian for a short while and "seeing the light"

I've never really looked back yet. I'll definitely have a play when WM7 finally gets out the door though.

Richdog · 16 Jun 2008 at 12:44

The trade-off with the Symbian is the awful UI and the lack of touch which makes navigating and browsing on them a complete and utter bloody nightmare... I would swap it for WM in an instant if I knew that the WM device had all the features of my N82. Plus the added bonus of decent office/business use of WM and for me it's a no brainer really.

The Omnia better have 30fps video recording though... it comes in soooo useful at christmas/birthday parties, and er... other things.

Scoobie Dave · 16 Jun 2008 at 13:25

Richdog said:
and er... other things.

And what might that be?

doggo · 16 Jun 2008 at 14:07

That Sammy looks just the job. I've got an iPhone and it's a bit disapointing really. This may be just what I've been looking for.

Richdog · 16 Jun 2008 at 16:32

Scoobie Dave said:
And what might that be?

3 inches of magnificence.

Kearney_1988 · 16 Jun 2008 at 16:52

im just torn on all this new nice phones, Omnia....Xperia...or touch diamond...i just dont know

i think im leaning towards the omnia tho looks nice and snazzy

Dave85 · 16 Jun 2008 at 23:05

I have never found another trouchscreen phone so responsive as the iphone for scrolling etc, the viewty was terrible and looking at the video this looks the same.

Airax · 18 Jun 2008 at 07:29

The 16GB version is a network exclusive BTW. 8GB will be available SIM free though.

mwillo · 18 Jun 2008 at 07:45

some new videos here

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/news/show/89586/samsung-omnia-videos-from-mobifrance.html

James07 · 18 Jun 2008 at 13:57

Whats this retailing at?

Scoobie Dave · 19 Jun 2008 at 10:39

James07 said:
Whats this retailing at?

I'd like to know this as well, although I will be hopefully getting this on contract. I dont mind even if I have to pay a little as well as long as it's sim free.

Camalot · 19 Jun 2008 at 19:47

Can you text fast with these touch screen phones, or is it going to be a pain in the arse?

I'm a big txter, and internet user.

Richdog · 19 Jun 2008 at 19:54

I think the on-screen keyboard texting takes some "getting used to", having played with my friends iToy.

"andy" · 19 Jun 2008 at 21:10

looks good and should be without the apple style tax

also i assume you just drag and drop music and vids etc onto it ?

Greenlizard0 · 20 Jun 2008 at 18:49

Kearney_1988 said:
hmmmm this or the xperia i cant choose

Is the Xperia SE's offerings? I have had four of them in the past and they have never failed though. I'm looking to upgrade my K800i though I'm slightly gutted that the camera's only 3.2MP...I ideally would want 5.0.

Richdog · 20 Jun 2008 at 18:52

Greenlizard0 said:
Is the Xperia SE's offerings? I have had four of them in the past and they have never failed though. I'm looking to upgrade my K800i though I'm slightly gutted that the camera's only 3.2MP...I ideally would want 5.0.

Do a forum search, there's a thread for the Xperia.

mrochester · 20 Jun 2008 at 19:41

The trade-off with the Symbian is the awful UI and the lack of touch which makes navigating and browsing on them a complete and utter bloody nightmare...

It's funny how people started saying this only after the iPhone appeared. Before that, Symbian was a perfectly fine UI with the best browsing experience out there. The introduction of the iPhone doesn't suddenly make the S60 user interface an 'awful UI' or the browsing experience any worse. In fact, they are still excellent, AND combine a thorough and sophisticated set of features too. The choice is simple really... The BEST interface + substandard features = iPhone, or, a GREAT interface + excellent features = high end Nokia phone. For me, a balance of a great interface and excellent features is far more important than being all flash with no substance.

Richdog · 20 Jun 2008 at 20:48

mrochester said:
It's funny how people started saying this only after the iPhone appeared. Before that, Symbian was a perfectly fine UI with the best browsing experience out there.

What a sweeping generalisation to make. Honestly.

The introduction of the iPhone doesn't suddenly make the S60 user interface an 'awful UI' or the browsing experience any worse. In fact, they are still excellent, AND combine a thorough and sophisticated set of features too. The choice is simple really... The BEST interface + substandard features = iPhone, or, a GREAT interface + excellent features = high end Nokia phone. For me, a balance of a great interface and excellent features is far more important than being all flash with no substance.

Ok I get it, you love Nokia. A lot. But for the record if you can take the blinkers off for a second... I found the Symbian UI a complete nightmare for browsing LONG before the iPhone was released... and WM users have been enjoying good browsing in comparison to Symbian users for a LONG time. The iPhone made the experience a lot smoother, but Symbian has in my opinion sucked for browsing through lack of intuitive controls and lack of touchscreen since it was released... and i have owned a LOT of Nokia phones since then. In fact i'm not quite sure why the only two phone types you make reference to are iPhone and Symbian (considering this thread and my comments were clearly referring to a WM phone)... my sole point was that in my opinion having used Symbian for years, it is not an intuitive UI or one friendly for browsing due to the lack of touch. Period.