*****SANDYBRIDGE MOTHERBOARD CHIPSET ISSUE*****

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I do have one drive on the SATA 11 controller, which is logging CRC errors for normal read write usage, Load Cycle Count errors and offline Uncorrectale errors.

HD Tune Pro suggests I replace the drive. Anyone else want to try, the drive in question worked ok in my Q660 rig.
 
I am slightly curious, does anyone actually know what happens to the recalled motherboards? Say for example, a manufacturer decides to just swap the afflicted out with brand new motherboards. What happens to the used ones?

I guess it would be unforgivable business practise to chuck a whole motherboard out because of one faulty component. But then again I don't want to be waiting to March for the fixed revision and only to be receiving someone else now fixed motherboard as brand new.

It could just be me, being a tad OCD but no one would ever know how the previous owner treated the motherboard or what it went through during their possession of it.

I would hate to end up going through the woes of an RMA or something similar because of it.

It's actually making me more inclined to order sooner than later so I know I am getting a brand new motherboard when I pay for one.
 
As I am sure OcUK, and I am sure some members on here also are aware, Intel issued a statement today to the effect that as a result of the design issue recently identified with their 600 Series Chipset, they are recommending that system builders stop building and shipping systems based on this chipset until additional information becomes available.

Pretty clear I would say... and that is directly from Intel themselves.
 
Slyman2k4 said:
I am slightly curious, does anyone actually know what happens to the recalled motherboards?
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They make tables like this

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End of the day, it's a small problem, which will rarely affect a small amount of users, but everyone (intel, ocuk and the mb makers) are making you aware of it while they sort out all the paperwork. Simple.
 
Doh, I auctioned off my processor, motherboard and memory (DDR2) last weekend, I was planning to buy my SB components this week. I guess I won't be gaming for a while :(
 
Most of the manufacturers X spoke to don't expect Asus to recall the motherboards in question, but to replace them as and when they fail. Y wasn't sure what position the company would take, but said: "Asus is quite bullish, saying it only affects 5% of users."

Asus had no comment other than to confirm it would issue a statement tomorrow.
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Should be interesting to see what Asus say tomorrow.

I'm not going to be building my current PC until I know one way or the other that I'll be in a position to get the motherboard replaced when a revised model is available. Whether or not the problem affects me now is academic, I will I'm sure have need to use the SATA 3Gbps ports at some point in the future and I don't want to end up losing money because I'm selling the "broken version" of a motherboard.
 
I might be missing a big step here but if it's a design/manufacturing fault which they've had to physically change the way the chipset is designed/manufactured. Why is it not going to affect all chipsets? They are quoting 5-15% why is that % different to the other 85% - 95% that are based on the same silicon? Especially when I believe they've said it's a transistor leaking voltage. Surely the potential is there for it to affect all boards?

But as I say I'm probably missing a big step.
 
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It affects every P67 chipset motherboard (including laptops, notebooks, etc) sold after Jan 9th - the date the NDA was lifted - therefore essentially every retail purchase.

The "it affects 5-15% of users" is an estimate based on usage patterns for these motherboards, i.e. that 5-15% of users that even use those ports and place enough sustained load on them to make the part fail. If you never use the Intel SATA 2 ports at all then you'll never notice a problem, similarly you may not see the problem for years if you don't place too much load on those ports. I've heard anecdotal stories that Crossfire requires higher PCH voltages from the motherboard to run properly, higher PCH voltages = faster degradation (as per Intels own tests).

Specifically, the problem’s in the interface’s clocking tree, which is the interface that governs data movement. The transistors in this interface are coated with a thin layer of gate oxide, which allows it to be activated with a very low voltage – but, crucially, the transistors actually use a higher voltage than the oxide allows.

The result? Leaking currents which, when given time to build up, can cause the 3Gb/s ports to fail. Luckily, the two SATA 6Gb/s sockets are governed by independent transistors and clocking trees, so they’re not affected.

Intel could have worked around the problem by reducing the voltage to the affected transistors, but that’s just a bodge job – the recall, although inconvenient, allows Intel to introduce fully operational processors, and allows motherboard manufacturers to ensure that the SATA 3Gb/s sockets on its boards won’t suddenly fall over in a couple of years time.
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The long and short of it is - if you use those ports then given enough time & load they will fail. It is a question of when, not if.
 
For sure it's a major embaressment for Intel but this issue is getting blown all out of proportion and instead of people demanding answers now, people should have a little patience in allowing both Intel and the motherboard manufacturers and in turn OCUK chance to keep us all informed on what they intend to do about it.

You can't honestly expect OCUK or anyone else for that matter to say 'sure send back all your motherboards and we'll pick up the tab' until they have recieved confirmation from the manufacturers themselves.

All this hysteria is a little premature. If there is no solution forthcoming and then Intel/Asus/Giga/msi etc/OCUK decline to RMA boards KNOWING they are defective then it's time to get out the pitchforks.

Until then....



As a side note, I find it disgusting that some individuals are laughing at others who were early adopters. I skipped Sandybridge because it wasn't for me (waiting for x68) but I feel for those who may potentially have problems.
 
Hi guys,First post

Recently bought a Titan Spinosaur system.Very happy with it and its a great system,but this news is worrying.
I understand this is early days with this issue but wonder what will happen on any recall.Will the system go back or just motherboard?? Concerned about the o/c on the sandybridge as i dont feel confident rebuilding system (if it comes to that)
 
If you bought a system and the system is faulty you would send the whole system back. You bought a PC not a motherboard.

Most likely if the mobo turned out to be faulty it would be replaced...not the entire system.

If a new car you owned broke down under warranty you wouldn't be expected to take the engine out and return that would you?!
 
Wow, I'm even more glad I cancelled my sandybridge upgrade now.

I use 4 sata II hard drives, news like this would have had me really worried if I had bought a P67.
 
glowdj said:
Hi guys,First post

Recently bought a Titan Spinosaur system.Very happy with it and its a great system,but this news is worrying.
I understand this is early days with this issue but wonder what will happen on any recall.Will the system go back or just motherboard?? Concerned about the o/c on the sandybridge as i dont feel confident rebuilding system (if it comes to that)
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We would take the system back and rebuild it ourselves :)
 
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