*****SANDYBRIDGE MOTHERBOARD CHIPSET ISSUE*****

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You really are quite a sad little man. I know your life revolves around this forum (100k posts in 8 years is staggering) but that's no excuse for belittling the genuine concerns of others.

Your incessant ridiculing of anyone who disagrees with your often misinformed or narrow-minded point of view is seriously grating.

You've been wrong on so many occasions yet you lack any apparent humility or recognition that like it or not this issue is of serious concern to a number of people. I'm thankful that Gibbo is on the case on this because you - like in so many other threads past and present - have not contributed anything remotely constructive whatsoever.

Personal insults will not be tolerated.

Also you may not know that the majority of his posts were "bought" in a charity event run on this forum to help a member with cancer. So not so sad.

Fox's opinion on the matter (sandy bridge issue) isn't narrow minded at all. He is making sense unlike a lot of the other posts in this thread.

Now everyone has an opinion of someone, fair enough but this is too direct.

You need to book your ideas up on here and just think alittle bit more when you post.

I could be harsh but I'll play nice :)
 
with one of these presumably?

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18236909

bad show guys.. there's no potential damage to hard drives, no official word from intel so why are you trying to sell £20 worth of kit to avoid any issues? Or are they on loan so people can refund them when any potential recall has happened?

No, with the new revision boards you fool! Jesus Christ. Who do you think we are?!

Of course, you will have to wait till march but that is something beyond our control.
 
with one of these presumably?

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18236909

bad show guys.. there's no potential damage to hard drives, no official word from intel so why are you trying to sell £20 worth of kit to avoid any issues? Or are they on loan so people can refund them when any potential recall has happened?

Stop trolling!

We would take the system back and rebuild it with a new B3 revision board, not by adding a SATA card. Also all our systems are built using just the 6G ports and ports 0,1 so no systems will experience any issues. However we shall rebuild systems with new B3 revision boards when they become available and at such time we shall be contacting all our customers.

In regards to offering SATA cards for sale, well were not holding a gun to your head, you don't have to buy one, but for some its a solution until at least they can get boards swapped out.
 
I agree it doesn't look good to be trying to advertise / sell those cards for people interested in buying the said mobos.

It doesn't "look" like anything. We are simply suggesting that if you want to utilise all your sat devices without potential risk of losing them, then this controller card is available for the in-between time before the new revision chipset.

You know, we do try to help people in these situations.
 
I agree it doesn't look good to be trying to advertise / sell those cards for people interested in buying the said mobos.

Why?

Some have expressed the need for controller cards as they use more than 4 SATA ports, as such were making it clear we offer such a product. But were not holding a gun to anyones head saying must buy, infact we I'd not recommend buying one because first of all 4 SATA ports function fine and most people have less than 4 HDD's in their PC. Its just for the handful of people who do have more harddrives and don't want to have to disconnect them this is an option.

Were not forcing you to buy one, but it is an option, not a must or recommended.
This to many is actually helpful, we've gone out looking for cheap controllers and put some offers together to help those out.

Yet some here seem to think its the opposite, some of you really need to get a grip as its getting tiring....
 
why is everyone crying?

is everyone in this thread using sandybridge or just trolling?

if you donthave a problem why be worried?
everything has a chance of failure i bet there is othe rhardware with biger faulure rates that 5% but nobody says anything

the fact that intel have said somthing shows how good of a company they are and that we can buy with confidence
 
Stop trolling!

We would take the system back and rebuild it with a new B3 revision board, not by adding a SATA card. Also all our systems are built using just the 6G ports and ports 0,1 so no systems will experience any issues. However we shall rebuild systems with new B3 revision boards when they become available and at such time we shall be contacting all our customers.

In regards to offering SATA cards for sale, well were not holding a gun to your head, you don't have to buy one, but for some its a solution until at least they can get boards swapped out.

I'm not trolling! I have a difference of opinion to you. I haven't got an SB setup although I was considering it and if I had and then I'd seen the obvious issue (it takes a hell of a lot for someone like intel to admit publicly there's an issue so I'd guess it's more than 5% risk, this is a PR disaster not to mention the issues with OEM partners etc etc) and then seen you carry on selling the boards with a disclaimer along the lines of "if you're daft enough to buy this we're making it clear you did it off your own back so we're in the clear" and then to try and make money off the back of it just shows you're just not aligned to treating your customers well!

There's another option you know, ignore your competition, ignore whether someone might be taking stuff off sale because they don't have stock, ignore the fact you might miss a few SB sales and use your considerable buying power to lean on the OEMs for support, for guaranteed swapouts in the future if anything goes wrong, go win something for the consumer and in the meantime take the stuff off sale and bill someone for the lost revenue.

That happens regularly enough to me and thats only if we've managed to put the wrong sodding barcode on something not if it's likely to take down a PC which lets be hinest is the centre of all your customers lives!

It's a difference of opinion, not trolling. I was merely pointing out what I think is questionable business practice, albeit in a slightly tongue in cheek way but if I'm trolling fox is my boss.
 
Being fairly new to the forums I am a little surprised by some of the reaction to this news. When we fully understand what is happening/going to happen to sort out the issue, that will be the time when people can express their 'opinions'. I think credit should go to Intel for letting us know of the problem rather than trying to hide it.

People who have already made purchases will have understandably been very worried when they first heard the news. From what I understand as long as you aren't using the faulty SATA ports you should be ok. I am sure that these people will at some stage have the problem resolved one way or another.

I was looking to build myself a new system this month, but for now I have decided to wait and see what news is released in the coming weeks and then make a decison on what I am going to do. If a have to wait for my new system it's not the end of the world..................... unless my ageing system decides to pack up on me!

P.S I hope my new sig meets the rules.
 
I'm a little uneasy with Asus position. They seem to be saying that only 5% of Sandybridge boards will manifest into the problem, and they seem to be edging towards replacing only boards which become faulty, rather than replacing boards because a fault exists.

I'm pretty sure that won't wash with Trading Standards - the boards are not fit for purpose, strictly speaking, however not everywhere has the same consumer laws as the UK.

On the other hand it may be Asus trying to hedge themselves, and not open themselves up to a recall should Intel somehow avoid it. I would hope it's just that and not Asus trying to be sharp.

Iphone 4 wasn't a good example. Steve Jobs just claimed people were holding the phones wrong and nothing was faulty. If I'd bought one I'd have taken it back for a refund.

As far as OcUK keeping selling the boards - I see no problem at all with this. This isn't PC World, this is a shop for people who are careful about what they buy. The disclaimer is unmissable, anyone who buys a Sandybridge board will know what they are doing.

I did crack a joke last night about OcUK putting SATA cards on this week only... I wonder if Gibbo read it. It does seem like a restaurant handing someone a pack of Rennies with their main course.... But like Gibbo says they aren't forcing anyone to buy em, and they're not proposing it as a remedy for the faulty boards.
 
I'm not trolling! I have a difference of opinion to you. I haven't got an SB setup although I was considering it and if I had and then I'd seen the obvious issue (it takes a hell of a lot for someone like intel to admit publicly there's an issue so I'd guess it's more than 5% risk, this is a PR disaster not to mention the issues with OEM partners etc etc) and then seen you carry on selling the boards with a disclaimer along the lines of "if you're daft enough to buy this we're making it clear you did it off your own back so we're in the clear" and then to try and make money off the back of it just shows you're just not aligned to treating your customers well!

There's another option you know, ignore your competition, ignore whether someone might be taking stuff off sale because they don't have stock, ignore the fact you might miss a few SB sales and use your considerable buying power to lean on the OEMs for support, for guaranteed swapouts in the future if anything goes wrong, go win something for the consumer and in the meantime take the stuff off sale and bill someone for the lost revenue.

That happens regularly enough to me and thats only if we've managed to put the wrong sodding barcode on something not if it's likely to take down a PC which lets be hinest is the centre of all your customers lives!

It's a difference of opinion, not trolling. I was merely pointing out what I think is questionable business practice, albeit in a slightly tongue in cheek way but if I'm trolling fox is my boss.


How is it questionable business practice?

People want Sandybridge still irrelevent of this issue, by removing from sale we prevent those customers been able to buy, now thats real bad business. By leaving them for sale we please all, those who want to buy can and buy knowing the board could manifest an issue but will still be covered by warranty and if a recall occurrs still be able to get their board swapped out. In what way is this bad practice, its not because believe it not there is no gun helds to customer heads saying you must buy.

Secondly you say we should be working hard to make sure the situation is resolved in a manner that gives customers best end result, do you really think we've not been doing that for the past 48hrs, myself and other managers within OcUK have sent emails to Intel and all motherboard vendors with our expectations of how things will be dealt with and that we have high expectations and also expect OcUK nor its customers to be out of pocket. If you really think we've not been doing this then I am surprised but its been our number one priority. Were still selling the boards and shall continue to do so simply because customers can buy a board now, tomorrow or next week and if a recall happens they can simply get the board swapped out or if a problem manifest they can simply send it back under warranty and get a new B3 replacement. How does taking the boards off sale change our ability to lean on the vendors? I can tell you now it makes no difference.

We have gone out of way to keep customers updated, do you see competitors interacting with customers at 10pm at night and answering questions? Do you see competitors putting bright red text on descriptions that there could be an issue and news bulletins on the website and all over their forums? I think we have gone out of our way, however what you don't see is all the work we do in the background to ensure our customers are looked after above and beyond, as we find out more or have answers they will be posted.

I think it just takes the ****ss quite a bit that some of you come across all high and mighty trying to make out you clearly know better and saying were not doing enough or its in some way wrong were still selling boards.

Then to come out with comments saying bill Intel for lost business, well that clearly shows how you have no idea. Intel might cover cost involved of swapping out boards but trying to bill them for lost business they'd laugh at you and probably cease supporting us alltogether as they have not instructed us to remove from sale, its only been a suggestion.

If they instruct to remove from sales and all etailors follow then yes they will be removed and as such no sales will be lost as customers will simply buy 1156 or 1366 products but until Intel give such order and all follow we shall give our customers extra by giving them the options and not taking those options away.

I see us as doing more, not less.
 
In a bid to stop all the post about the same thing. I see a couple of options for P67 chipset owners:

1. Keep the kit and see how it all pans out (what I plan to do). Unless Gigabyte\Intel\OCUK manage to dodge a bullet, then 3 will be used

2. Buy a SATA PCI-E card if your overly worried.

3. Return the goods as under the pretext of "Not as Described" or "Fit for Purpose" for a full refund. I'm sure you could argue the whole kit (inc CPU and RAM) as it was bought as a system. OC may not like this option and I can understand that but the UK Stataurary rights are quite good for this kind of thing, plus it would be very difficult for any one to say that there's no fault regardless if the failure rate could be low or high.

So, please make your mind up and leave OC to talk to who they need to talk with,
 
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