SAPPHIRE RX 480 NITRO NOW AVAILABLE FOR PRE-ORDER AT OVERCLOCKERS UK (WORLD FIRST) !!!

[TheRealDeal]

I cancelled my order for the 480 on Monday, paid overclockers the additional £40 & got a OC'ed 1060. It runs quitter and cooler than the 480 & uses less leckie. Its not as 'future proof' as some like to say, but I'm buying it to use it today, not next year.

The way I see it is this:

Most (but not all) games & GPU exploiting software (video encoding etc) are coded to use NVidia over AMD. AMD needed the RX series to be a success as many more cards sold means devs have to code of the most popular cards, and so would move to AMD and at least make 50/50 games & other software AMD/NVidia.

AMD clearly have problems supplying 'top bin' GPUs to AIB cardmakers hence the delays. The production binning appears to be working in favour of the 470s (and 460s?), as those launches haven't been delayed.

So can AMD make up ground? It appears not with this launch! Maybe with Vega next year, but they really need to learn the lessons from this launch. Two months post launch wait for a graphics card that runs hotter, uses more electricity and isn't coded for as many games & apps is taking the proverbial...

I expect nonsense replies from the usual 'AMD fan boys' but I have bought nothing but AMD since 2003, (last GPUs were HD4850 & the 1060 replaces my Sapphire HD7850 Dual X OC). Also, I still expect to purchase a Zen CPU next year to replace my FX8350 (no chance of them appearing this year, except maybe in a few custom designs or in wait queues similar to the queue for the 480 it appears).

But when will AMD pull its finger out? Still that's not to say my 1060 is without issue. I have to do a clean W10 install as the system is now corrupt, & even Codename Panzers refuses to run, giving me a D3DERR_INVALID_CALL error!

I hope for your sake you are right but just about every 60 card has went down the pan performance wise since the gtx660 compared to the AMD equivalents in pricing. This is fact and nothing to do with Fan boys. The worst offender is probably the gtx960 which never took long at all to drop away from the 380/380x.

I don't blame you though i would not have liked to wait that long for a card. I usually have a card to play on any how so the wait would not have bothered me to much.

 

[HarryBizzle]

Gonna give it a few more days. I know it's been said next shipment isn't even leaving HK until next week but gonna wait anyway before switch my order to something else that can be delivered next day from elsewhere. A few places are matching the Zotac 1060 Mini price.

 

[Bonjour]

People keep harping on about how much less electricity the 1060 uses compared to the 480, though that doesn't seem to always be the case.

Blue is 480. Orange is 1060:

 

[~>Dg<~]

Flebay is full of them 500-700w (supposedly) under a£20,should anyone like to burn down their house

you know the real funny thing is i had some tin pot thing for a 2nd desktop i had my kids used as a gaming machine reasonable gpu in and cpu and it last for like 6-7 years lol. it was i think £15 .

haha longer than all the proper branded ones i owned

 

[kieran_read]

People keep harping on about how much less electricity the 1060 uses compared to the 480, though that doesn't seem to always be the case.

Blue is 480. Orange is 1060:

What are the full specs though?

Is the system the same other than the graphics cards. If they have different CPUs then that would explain the difference.

 

[paraw]

I know it's been said next shipment isn't even leaving HK until next week.

Honestly, I don't think that is the problem. Rather, the question is, is the shipment going to get here by plane or ship? Because if it's by plane, then the delay over the ETA is only going to be 3-4 days (if customs officials don't create problems). But if it's by ship, then we are not going to get anything before the end of September. And that would be really annoying.

 

[TheRealDeal]

What are the full specs though?

Is the system the same other than the graphics cards. If they have different CPUs then that would explain the difference.

Looks like an Anandtech comparison so would have been the same CPU. I can't get these results to come up though. I think the orange is the 1060 as it's more in line with what i get on Anand.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Honestly, I don't think that is the problem. Rather, the question is, is the shipment going to get here by plane or ship? Because if it's by plane, then the delay over the ETA is only going to be 3-4 days (if customs officials don't create problems). But if it's by ship, then we are not going to get anything before the end of September. And that would be really annoying.

It's by plane as Gibbo said this in another thread. They can't wait the amount of time a boat would take. They have to be able to react to stock much faster than a boat would allow basically.

 

[Yutang13]

Looks like an Anandtech comparison so would have been the same CPU. I can't get these results to come up though. I think the orange is the 1060 as it's more in line with what i get on Anand.

Correct. The numbers are the same as here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10540/the-geforce-gtx-1060-founders-edition-asus-strix-review/16

Different looking graph though.

Edit: Found out where. Product comparison graph on Anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1748?vs=1771

 

[TheRealDeal]

Correct. The numbers are the same as here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10540/the-geforce-gtx-1060-founders-edition-asus-strix-review/16

Different looking graph though.

Use this and you will get the same bars as above.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1748?vs=1777

 

[flowrider99]

Getting fed up waiting for the 480 so now considering a 470 instead. I game 1080p on a 24" freesync monitor with an R9 380, the 380 is going into another PC. Will the 470 be a noticable upgrade from a 380?

 

[Bonjour]

What are the full specs though?

Is the system the same other than the graphics cards. If they have different CPUs then that would explain the difference.

Same system specs, apparently. It's from Anandtech's GPU comparison.

 

[humbug]

Getting fed up waiting for the 480 so now considering a 470 instead. I game 1080p on a 24" freesync monitor with an R9 380, the 380 is going into another PC. Will the 470 be a noticable upgrade from a 380?

Yes but you should really wait, you have a GPU to use and it can't be too much longer.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Which clearly shows a bog-standard 480 being compared to a massively overclocked Strix 1060. The fact that you have to show an extreme example shows how power efficient the 1060 is!

Its like me pointing out the 1060 uses less than 10 watts (idle) in multi-monitor set-ups, & comparing it to the 480s 40 watts in the 480, then claiming the 1060 is 400% more power efficient.

In that case it is, but that's not representative of the cards performance as a whole, just like your extreme example isn't reflective of the additional power draw in the 480, which in a system like mine which is on 24/7 costs an extra £50 a year just to keep at idle!

The founders edition is there to choose as well. I was not telling him to use those results. There is no real difference in usage anyway between the Strix and FE power usage. Stop saying it's my example i only linked him the site. I was trying to replicate his results so i tried the RX480 4gb v 1060fe and strix along with the Rx480 8gb v Strix. Just so happens that was my last comparison. Calm down old chap lol.

Here you go.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1748?vs=1771

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Which clearly shows a bog-standard 480 being compared to a massively overclocked Strix 1060. The fact that you have to show an extreme example shows how power efficient the 1060 is!

Its like me pointing out the 1060 uses less than 10 watts (idle) in multi-monitor set-ups, & comparing it to the 480s 40 watts, then claiming the 1060 is 400% more power efficient.

Although in the case of multi-monitor set-ups that is 100% true, that's not representative of the cards performance as a whole. Just like your extreme example isn't reflective of the additional power draw in the 480, which in a system like mine which is on 24/7 costs an extra £50 a year just to keep at idle!

Who honestly gives a damn - if you want to save the planet buy a console or laptop.

My whole system with a Xeon E3 1230 V2/Core i7 3770,16GB of DDR3,an SSD,two HDDs and with a GTX660 was lucky to see 200W at the wall when gaming and it was similar to the GTX960 too. Same with the HD7850 I tried out.

Oh noes! I might see 240W at the wall if I get some other card. MEH,and I have a mini-ITX system too.

This is why were are getting worse and worse performance bumps under £200 due to power consumption E-PEEN.

Why we have barely moved forward in performance at under £150 either and why more and more average gamers have to spend another £50 to £100 just to get more performance.

Also,if you truly cared about power consumption you would switch your PC off.

You are moaning about power consumption but CBA to switch your PC off.

LMAO.

If you really cared about power consumption did you look at reviews for your monitors regarding power consumption,or whether your motherboard overvolts at stock or whether your PSU is efficient at low loads?? Most of the certifications only look at higher loads too.

Just keeping it on 24/7 rather than switching it off will cost MORE money.

My PC boots up in mere seconds.

You know because of this awesome invention called an SSD??

I also find it very weird that on this forum,we are finding all these people who joined in July around the time of the RX480/GTX1060 launches now going on how brilliant the GTX1060 is in an RX480 thread??

For one minute I thought Rollo and co had started up again.

 

[kieran_read]

The founders edition is there to choose as well. I was not telling him to use those results. There is no real difference in usage anyway between the Strix and FE power usage. Stop saying it's my example i only linked him the site. I was trying to replicate his results so i tried the RX480 4gb v 1060fe and strix along with the Rx480 8gb v Strix. Just so happens that was my last comparison. Calm down old chap lol.

Here you go.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1748?vs=1771

Yeh I was looking at both the FE and AIB OC.

Though the original poster got the colours the wrong way around.

 

[humbug]

Which clearly shows a bog-standard 480 being compared to a massively overclocked Strix 1060. The fact that you have to show an extreme example shows how power efficient the 1060 is!

Its like me pointing out the 1060 uses less than 10 watts (idle) in multi-monitor set-ups, & comparing it to the 480s 40 watts, then claiming the 1060 is 400% more power efficient.

Although in the case of multi-monitor set-ups that is 100% true, that's not representative of the cards performance as a whole. Just like your extreme example isn't reflective of the additional power draw in the 480, which in a system like mine which is on 24/7 costs an extra £50 a year just to keep at idle!

The really pathetic thing here is the arguing over a few watts of power.

At 40 Watts it would take 25 Hours to get to 1Kw Hour @ 15 Pence it would take a full year of constant running to cost £5.10 more than the 480, not £50, where did you get that idiotic number from?

Just stop, the power consumption difference is nothing in real terms.

 

[kieran_read]

The really pathetic thing here is the arguing over a few watts of power.

At 40 Watts it would take 25 Hours to get to 1Kw Hour @ 15 Pence it would take a full year of constant running to cost £5.10 more than the 480, not £50, where did you get that idiotic number from?

Just stop, the power consumption difference is nothing in real terms.

TBH I find the whole power costs hilarious.

So many people on here throw £600+ on new cards on a yearly/bi yearly upgrade and then whine about an extra £15 on electricity bills.

Quite frankly if you're can afford to upgrade to the top of the range graphics card on a yearly basis but then complain about how much the electricity is going to cost you, I think they you help.


(not directed at you or anyone in particular just my observation.=) )

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The really pathetic thing here is the arguing over a few watts of power.

At 40 Watts it would take 25 Hours to get to 1Kw Hour @ 15 Pence it would take a full year of constant running to cost £5.10 more than the 480, not £50, where did you get that idiotic number from?

Just stop, the power consumption difference is nothing in real terms.

Apparently in a bid to save power he says the GTX1060 consumes less power so he saves more money but then CBA to switch the PC off so it costs him more money??

** Please do not try to circumvent the swear filter - EVH **

OFC,he also forgets about AMD ZeroCore which drops power even more during long idle states.

So if someone bought an RX480 and actually switched the PC off,unlike him it will cost less to run.

But,but power consumption E-PEEN.

They should buy the new XBox One S - it consumes like 80W under load and like 35W at idle.

In fact I head the latest iPad consumes mere watts - Pokemon Go is very efficient and low cost as a game.

This is why the whole sub £150 segment is filled with underpowered cards like the GTX950,GTX750TI,RX460,etc which have the same performance as cards years ago,all to save a few watts of power.

Don't worry AMD and Nvidia will launch a new set of cards next year with the backing of the Green Party which will switch off if you use your computer too much.

Reason??

The environment.

 

[Bonjour]

Which clearly shows a bog-standard 480 being compared to a massively overclocked Strix 1060. The fact that you have to show an extreme example shows how power efficient the 1060 is!

Its like me pointing out the 1060 uses less than 10 watts (idle) in multi-monitor set-ups, & comparing it to the 480s 40 watts, then claiming the 1060 is 400% more power efficient.

Although in the case of multi-monitor set-ups that is 100% true, that's not representative of the cards performance as a whole. Just like your extreme example isn't reflective of the additional power draw in the 480, which in a system like mine which is on 24/7 costs an extra £50 a year just to keep at idle!

Standard FE 1060, should you prefer. 1060 is actually orange this time. I think I got the colours mixed up with the first one, though it doesn't matter as one uses more in one instance while the other uses more power in another.

I used an OCd 1060 initially as someone in this thread cited power as a reason he switched to a 1060, and he had purchased an OCd edition. We were seeing similar things with the 970; people citing power as a reason for purchasing the 970, then overclocking the nuts off it so it consumed a similar amount of power to a 290/290x.