SAPPHIRE RX 480 NITRO NOW AVAILABLE FOR PRE-ORDER AT OVERCLOCKERS UK (WORLD FIRST) !!!

[kieran_read]

Maths appears to be an issue for you. British gas standard electricity is no where near 15p KHh!

Now tell me how I should switch my provider, change me life etc. Except of course, its only a GPU! Why do you get worked up and so angry about a GPU that you feel compelled to argue with random strangers on the net?

Oh, and every review shows that even at idle the RX 480 is significantly more power hungry than the 1060. For those who can't do maths, its not less than 34 watts at idle with 2 monitors! Its a fact, deal with it! As I said, I would have lived with it if only the thing was available, it isn't!

But I suggest you keep on posting as you have been. You and others like you alienated me so much from AMD that I might never buy them again, further increasing NVidia's dominance. You might well be having the same effect on others too!

No where near 15p KWh?

Perhaps you should look at changing electricity providers then.

https://www.ukpower.co.uk/home_energy/tariffs-per-unit-kwh

SSE is only 10p KWh

It's very simple to change providers these days.

You're so concerned about this power argument of 1 graphics card but not about your entire house?

I think you have your priorities backwards

Re-evaluate dude!

 

[N19h7m4r3]

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Excuse me, but I actually provided citation and sources when you asked about AMD and video encoding. Even linking to an aftermarket 480 that uses 1W more than reference 1060.

Also in relation to CUDA being more wide spread, that hasn't been the case for 2+ years now.

All major NLE's support OpenCL, and even stand alone encoders such as handbrake are now getting AMD VCE hardware encoding support.

So the 480 with dedicated HVEC encoding hardware will be even faster than any NVIDIA equivalent. Especially since even and old 7970 beats the likes of the 980Ti in video encoding.

If you still want to get a GTX 1060, that's entirely your choice, and your money though. I just find that from a tech standpoint for video work the 480 appears to be the better card. Especially the PowerColor Red Devil variant in Silent mode.

 

[raggz]

Oh, and every review shows that even at idle the RX 480 is significantly more power hungry than the 1060. For those who can't do maths, its not less than 34 watts at idle with 2 monitors! Its a fact, deal with it! As I said, I would have lived with it if only the thing was available, it isn't!

my 3 monitor setup @ idle draws 20-30w at most idle with a 8gb 480 nitro oc according to gpuz

 

[raggz]

You had better contact all the reviewer sites and AMD as you have a card that has beaten all others ever tested and inform them how wrong their reviews are, in all reviews around the world. Clearly AMD have fabricated your GPU to a higher tolerance than any other known, even to AMD itself!

Either that, or that's not accurate. I wonder which is true?

Spoiler

see for yourself

 

[Stanners]

lets keep this thread on track please, a couple are pushing it.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

If you read this thread earlier, you would see its been done. Open CL & OpenGL performance is better on the 1060 than the 480. Most encoders are written to run on those APIs' (I use Adobe Media encoder). It's odd that you didn't ask about them before posting about electricity usage?

Now others who think they know better will post saying that Open CL is better on the 480, but they will not be able to post reviews of OpenCL 2.1 in any encoder reviews of the 1060 or the 480, as there aren't any (as of last Monday)!

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Sadly they didn't include a video compute review on all current Pascal based cards, but the 480 is better in OpenCL than even an overclocked 1060.

When Anandtech did include video compute related benchmarks

Unlike current NVIDIA hardware Polaris has dedicated hardware specifically for video encoding.

Even before that AMD cards were better for video work.

This is also what Gregster has to say about the 480, and this man owns the Titan X and GTX 1080. Both slower than the reference 480 he had for video encoding.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29797929&postcount=668

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29803874&postcount=154

Also before you try and dismiss anything because I might be an "amd fanboy"; these were my previous GPUs and I used them in FCPX, Compressor, Adobe Premiere and Handbrake.
They were all slower than the AMD FirePro D700's I had in my late 2013 Mac Pro prior to them.

Spoiler

GTX 680

GTX 660 and GTX 470

Even GTX 660 in my Mac Pro for FCPX and Compressor before that.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Sadly they didn't include a video compute review on all current Pascal based cards, but the 480 is better in OpenCL than even an overclocked 1060.

When Anandtech did include video compute related benchmarks

Unlike current NVIDIA hardware Polaris has dedicated hardware specifically for video encoding.

Even before that AMD cards were better for video work.

This is also what Gregster has to say about the 480, and this man owns the Titan X and GTX 1080. Both slower than the reference 480 he had for video encoding.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29797929&postcount=668

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29803874&postcount=154

Also before you try and dismiss anything because I might be an "amd fanboy"; these were my previous GPUs and I used them in FCPX, Compressor, Adobe Premiere and Handbrake.
They were all slower than the AMD FirePro D700's I had in my late 2013 Mac Pro prior to them.

Spoiler

GTX 680

GTX 660 and GTX 470

Even GTX 660 in my Mac Pro for FCPX and Compressor before that.

He knows that already,just look at this thread:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18742852

 

[LtMatt]

Sadly they didn't include a video compute review on all current Pascal based cards, but the 480 is better in OpenCL than even an overclocked 1060.

When Anandtech did include video compute related benchmarks

Unlike current NVIDIA hardware Polaris has dedicated hardware specifically for video encoding.

Even before that AMD cards were better for video work.

This is also what Gregster has to say about the 480, and this man owns the Titan X and GTX 1080. Both slower than the reference 480 he had for video encoding.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29797929&postcount=668

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29803874&postcount=154

Also before you try and dismiss anything because I might be an "amd fanboy"; these were my previous GPUs and I used them in FCPX, Compressor, Adobe Premiere and Handbrake.
They were all slower than the AMD FirePro D700's I had in my late 2013 Mac Pro prior to them.

Spoiler

GTX 680

GTX 660 and GTX 470

Even GTX 660 in my Mac Pro for FCPX and Compressor before that.

Nice info mate.

Can Sony Vegas perform the same conversion tasks as Handbrake? Wondering if i should switch my Pro Duo's to Vegas given the clear performance gains.

I currently use Handbrake to convert my gameplay videos for YouTube and am looking at ways to speed up the process.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Guys, last chance. If you can't keep it civil there will be more suspensions.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Given other 480s are in stock, is the sapphire one so good it's worth the wait? MSI 8GB version is £10 cheaper and in stock according to the website for example - is the performance difference going to be that great?

On OcUK its £300 which is way too much for an RX480. Its not a bad card,but if you are getting it for around £250 then its look fine from a quick look at the reviews.

Once you hit £300 for a RX480 or GTX1060,you might as well look for a cheaper GTX1070 at that point IMHO.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Nice info mate.

Can Sony Vegas perform the same conversion tasks as Handbrake? Wondering if i should switch my Pro Duo's to Vegas given the clear performance gains.

I currently use Handbrake to convert my gameplay videos for YouTube and am looking at ways to speed up the process.

Well that depends on how much editing you're going to do Matt. SV is primarily an NLE, but it can easily export to different codecs and containers like H.264 MP4s for YouTube and it will use a GPU for rendering and encoding.

Handbrake at the moment is primarily CPU based, so the more high performance cores the better; and until AMD's VCE support is finally in a complete live build we won't know for sure how well it'll work with GPUs.

https://github.com/HandBrake/HandBrake/pull/88

So if you're going to do more editing go for Sony Vegas, and you can still use Handbrake for any conversions and encoding, but if not stick with Handbrake for now and wait for complete VCE support to be added.

 

[LtMatt]

I don't do any editing, just compressing my H.264 files to smaller sizes for YouTube. I'll stick with Handbrake for now.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

I don't do any editing, just compressing my H.264 files to smaller sizes for YouTube. I'll stick with Handbrake for now.

You should certainly keep an eye out for any new Handbrake builds with AMD VCE support then to try them out.

 

[HarryBizzle]

Given other 480s are in stock, is the sapphire one so good it's worth the wait? MSI 8GB version is £10 cheaper and in stock according to the website for example - is the performance difference going to be that great?

That MSI is a reference card with a worse cooler.

Look at reviews to see if you think it's worth it. Reviews vary. Some say it's a big step up, others not so much.

I mainly want it because it's got a 0db fan mode and is supposed to stick to its boostclock better than the reference board. Not interested in fiddling with settings.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Interesting video, I hope more reviewers can verify all this in their overall charts.

 

[kieran_read]

Interesting video, I hope more reviewers can verify all this in their overall charts.

Well... by the time I get my card I expect at least 2 more drivers to come out so hopefully by that point it should be a lot better.

Do you watch that channel a lot? The voice was so monotone the Scottish guy is way easier to listen too, hopefully he will do a comparison between drivers at some point.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

I also find it very weird that on this forum,we are finding all these people who joined in July around the time of the RX480/GTX1060 launches now going on how brilliant the GTX1060 is in an RX480 thread??

For one minute I thought Rollo and co had started up again.

I find it more likely that July is when the schools are out for summer you seem to get a rash of immature posts across all forums around this time.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Well... by the time I get my card I expect at least 2 more drivers to come out so hopefully by that point it should be a lot better.

Do you watch that channel a lot? The voice was so monotone the Scottish guy is way easier to listen too, hopefully he will do a comparison between drivers at some point.

I don't watch that channel at all, found it on reddit, and in the AMD Driver thread.

I hope AMD's newer drivers help the RX cards some more as well.

 

[ahar]

That MSI is a reference card with a worse cooler.

Look at reviews to see if you think it's worth it. Reviews vary. Some say it's a big step up, others not so much.

I mainly want it because it's got a 0db fan mode and is supposed to stick to its boostclock better than the reference board. Not interested in fiddling with settings.

Ah, that makes sense.

@CAT-THE-FIFTH
It was this one I was looking at (£230)...
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-32e-ms.html

 

[CoolioMcCool]

Given other 480s are in stock, is the sapphire one so good it's worth the wait? MSI 8GB version is £10 cheaper and in stock according to the website for example - is the performance difference going to be that great?

If you tinker with settings the performance difference will be minimal, but out of the box the reference cooler throttles itself to around 1200Mhz, which is a pretty big step down from the 1300/1340 you will get constantly with the Nitros. The other aftermarket versions will be very close to the Nitro, but as has been pointed out, the MSI version is £300 and not in stock yet.