Maybe it is not an honour killing maybe it is just a "normal" killing of a girl
Sara Sharif
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Maybe it is not an honour killing maybe it is a just normal killing of a baby girl
This discussion is really pathetic, Yes the mother was Polish, and obviously, she couldn't do much being Polish to stop her husband. See how much there is in media about this, you even struggle to get there, No money no respect, OK? Yeah, there is a lot of neglect, so let's all be happy, that this happens again, with Polish mother even better. Sick!!!!
Eh? Are you having a stroke?
He, he. Good one. If I had a stroke I couldn't tape, but to respect of situation I am not going to get into a silly discussion with you
Commissario
The point I was making is that it's stupid to assume it's an "honour" killing when there are unfortunately plenty of other cases of neglect and physical abuse that lead to the deaths of children, and the limited information released so far fits that pattern
(I can think of three or four that were litterally babies over the last couple of years and at least one or two of kids around the same age).I suspect if the people on the run had been of good solid anglo saxon stock and had run to Spain or Canada the stupid suggestion would never have arisen.
The point I was making is that it's stupid to assume it's an "honour" killing when there are unfortunately plenty of other cases of neglect and physical abuse that lead to the deaths of children, and the limited information released so far fits that pattern
I suspect if the people on the run had been of good solid anglo saxon stock and had run to Spain or Canada the stupid suggestion would never have arisen.
I think you're trying to explain to someone who hasn't got the slightest clue what they're ranting about.
There have been honour killings carried out on kids younger than that too.
It certainly seems plausible, honour killings are a big issue for Pakistanis with hundreds of cases each year and traditionally they've been something that was tolerated culturally, that unfortunately has carried over with some of the dispora in the UK too.
In this case, there is an obvious potential source of conflict, the victim's mother is Polish/from a different culture could some inherent conflict re: values/lifestyle have been perceived by the Muslim relatives to have brought "shame" on their family? Also, why has another male family member, the victim's uncle, fled too?
More generally though there is also reported to be evidence of abuse over time too and there is the presence of a step-parent, step-parents are known to be way more abusive than biological parents and kill kids at a far higher rate.
According to one claim via another uncle held for questioning in Pakistan it was relayed via the grandparents that the stepmother was home at the time and the victim "fell" down the stairs and the father was worried about his other kids being taken from him.
Perhaps it was a mix of both, some cultural conflict/tensions and the fact she was a stepdaughter so at higher risk in addition to that too.
Cause of death 'unknown' but likely 'unnatural'.
Man of Honour
That seems strangely vague for modern times. I understand that the reality of investigation isn't as precise as it's depicted as being on TV, but I thought that it was much better than that when it comes to at least establishing cause of death.
Might be awaiting toxicology results.
Commissario
It'll likely be because this is the very first stage of the coroners report, basically they have to put something down on the paperwork, as Dis says it's likely awaiting additional testing or expert reports as there might be several things that could have caused the death but they don't know which one at the moment and need more time to find out what was the most likely and rule out some other things.
Or extra-terrestrials to leave the body.
Father is claiming the death was an accident. Even if that's the case I'm guessing he's fled because he knows the other kids will be taken off him.
Soldato
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Mother says she was so badly injured she 'did not recognise her' in mortuary
I think its pretty obvious what happened here and why they fled unfortunately this being pakistan and a patriarchal society chances of catching him/them soon don't look promising
Sara Sharif: So badly injured mum 'did not recognise her' in mortuary
Police in Surrey want to speak to three family members in relation to their murder investigation.
www.bbc.co.uk
I think its pretty obvious what happened here and why they fled unfortunately this being pakistan and a patriarchal society chances of catching him/them soon don't look promising
Sara Sharif: Dad and stepmum release video in first public comments since her death
Urfan Sharif and his partner describe Sara's death as an "incident" and claim they will co-operate with UK authorities.
www.bbc.co.uk
Despite fleeing the country apparently they're going to cooperate with police!
Caporegime
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We beat her to death, but didn't mean it?
Seems that way...
By cooperate with the police do you mean "put out a statement of intent and then refuse all questioning from said authorities"?Sara Sharif: Dad and stepmum release video in first public comments since her death
Urfan Sharif and his partner describe Sara's death as an "incident" and claim they will co-operate with UK authorities.www.bbc.co.uk
Despite fleeing the country apparently they're going to cooperate with police!
Should never be surprised with the level of scum from those regions and their "honour" which is anything but honourable.
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