Sasha Johnson shot in the head?!?

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It has been a bit ridiculous though with soaps recently when it comes to murder storylines and whilst i try to avoid caring about the shows, it does seem like the violence is a bit much, almost comical.
 
If anyone fancies a summary of this issue, without having to read the many posts/well-intentioned off topic nature of the latter part of this thread, this video hits on most of the salient points. They spin off a bit to talk about the irrelevance of BLM/George Floyd pandering going on in the UK but they come back on topic eventually.


I'd seen the argument she had with a black guy before... But I'd forgotten just how horrendous it was :o that part features at 1m15s in.
 
Murphy said:
We're a lot of things but being supposedly intelligent beings you'd sort of hope we'd be able to curb the more harmful aspect of our nature, if we simply allowed our more animalistic nature to rule over us we'd probably still be living in caves bashing each other over the head with clubs.
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Tribalism isn't harmful, it's a survival advantage that has been naturally selected since before we were even human. It's hard-wired into to all humans and should be managed, not suppressed.
 
robfosters said:
Is it more socially acceptable for a black person to shoot a black person than a white person to shoot a black person?
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Seems to be less likley to cause a riot, so I would assume yes, however I have no intention or rioting regardless so I cannot attest to motives of potential rioters
 
Skunkworks said:
Tribalism isn't harmful, it's a survival advantage that has been naturally selected since before we were even human. It's hard-wired into to all humans and should be managed, not suppressed.
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I disagree, tribalism has been the cause of more wars and death throughout history than probably anything else.

Also who said anything about suppressed, we don't suppress any of our other harmful traits, we manage them. If we suppressed them we wouldn't need laws or prisons for people who fail to manage their harmful desires.
 
Murphy said:
We're a lot of things but being supposedly intelligent beings you'd sort of hope we'd be able to curb the more harmful aspect of our nature, if we simply allowed our more animalistic nature to rule over us we'd probably still be living in caves bashing each other over the head with clubs.
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It's important to remember we still have tribal instincts, because the evolutionary path is long. But like you say, we expect it as just a decent moral standard that we are able to overcome our base instincts.

It's still very important to make that first realisation though, which lots of people don't do. It's the first step to realising you may actually have some unconscious bias.
 
Zefan said:
If anyone fancies a summary of this issue, without having to read the many posts/well-intentioned off topic nature of the latter part of this thread, this video hits on most of the salient points. They spin off a bit to talk about the irrelevance of BLM/George Floyd pandering going on in the UK but they come back on topic eventually.


I'd seen the argument she had with a black guy before... But I'd forgotten just how horrendous it was :o that part features at 1m15s in.
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Yeah have seen that interaction posted before, it's ridiculous that this person is being held up as a racial justice campaigner given her actual interactions/beliefs... it's purely because she's black, there are some super low expectations as a result, she can mouth off at that guy and call him the (racial) c-word, she's tried to form some black militia etc..

If she were white she'd be worse than the likes of "Tommy Robinson", essentially she's kind of like a black Mosley figure.

Last summer was particularly silly with the reaction to the George Floyd killing and all the defund the police nonsense and that's where people like this character emerged, most of it is just hype by the media, you could see in the coverage of this story, the possibility that it might have been a targeted attack caused plenty of hype initially and attempts immediately to link it to her activism.

In reality, the UK is nothing like the US in terms of policing, we already have the unarmed police force which practices de-escalation that the more sensible "defund the police" types want, the BLM protests make very little sense here beyond giving people an excuse for a bit of virtue signaling... mass gatherings last summer in various parks etc.. reminded me of the mass hysteria following Princess Diana's death, it's like people just went insane for a little bit, posting black squares on social media and then Instagram stories sharing so-called "anit-racist" book recommendations etc...

I mean this was George Floyd square today, bunch of reporters filming and of course there is a shooting:


And then this.... reminiscent of the "mostly peaceful" wording... the square is "very quiet" but oh... some reported just had their phone smashed:


Yet people like this Sasha character want to act as though we're living in a country where that sort of thing is the reality in inner cities, we've got our share of thugs over here, no doubt she hangs out with a bunch of them but it's hardly like the US.

The biggest irony is just her behaviour, she claims to stand up for black lives but she's completely ignoring covid restrictions, BAME people have been hit harder during this pandemic, died at a far greater rate and a significant element of that is very likely behavioural/cultural and she's exactly the sort of person responsible, can't even follow basic instructions, attending a big house party before restrictions have been lifted. People like her have essentially killed a bunch of elderly black Britons (had an uber driver a few weeks ago who had a similar problem, one of his cousins had been attending parties and had infected circa 15 people with Covid), yet she's claiming to stand for Black Lives Matter... it's just a performance for her, she's a low IQ racist herself but happens to have an identity that can get pandered.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
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You honestly don't believe that black lives matter just as much as white lives :eek:
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Do you? I bet a lot of black lives could have been saved with the money you spend on entertaining yourself

So in your world black lives batter leas than white entertainment?
 
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robfosters said:
Is it more socially acceptable for a black person to shoot a black person than a white person to shoot a black person?
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Racism through low standards or something its called.


Ie the view point is a white person has full agency and control of their lives. They should have known better than to shoot a black person.


A black person is assigned less agency and less capability so they where lead into the situation by circumstances etc therefore less to blame.



But when you actually look at it the argument doesn't actually benefit the black person just perpetuates the idea they're less of a person/less in control of themselves
 
dl8860 said:
It's important to remember we still have tribal instincts, because the evolutionary path is long. But like you say, we expect it as just a decent moral standard that we are able to overcome our base instincts.

It's still very important to make that first realisation though, which lots of people don't do. It's the first step to realising you may actually have some unconscious bias.
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For sure, basic instincts themselves aren't harmful. Having a fear of something like heights, or strangers, is a pretty healthy fear to have, it's when it prevents you from doing something or worse still cause issues in your everyday life that the intelligence part of the brain should ideally take over.
 
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